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Lol. The video made my day.

Win 8 is like a slightly more controllable Win 7 once you get rid of Metro. They add one thing and it pisses off almost all of their users.
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Like that one top comment on the video said, you can't always make improvements without introducing change, and sometimes change necessitates that people people learn something new. We can't just stick to something safe forever unless we want to stagnate.
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How many applications did you have opened at once on the same screen?

Depends on the screen. On the desktop, I had as much as I wanted to be open
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But on the metro ui, I can only have two opened at once. But the funny thing is I can have both the desktop and the metro ui side my side. Which i love.. C'mon people, stop the hate and learn how to use the OS
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post #114 of 418
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I'm in college too. I can do a video of some of my friends using it just to prove that intuition is useless when you have nothing to lean on. I damn sure know that the older generation will not be as smart either...

Yeah it takes some time to get used to. Its like switching from and automatic to a stick shift. It takes time to get used to it but once you do, you won't go back lol.
    
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Lol. The video made my day.
Win 8 is like a slightly more controllable Win 7 once you get rid of Metro. They add one thing and it pisses off almost all of their users.

I like Metro its fast, easy, fun, and definitively looks much better then the classic start menu. The thing that makes me laugh so hard about Metro bashers is the fact that metro works no different then the classic start menu. Same shortcut location, same functionality, just more visual style. Your typical home user (95% of people) wont have more then 100 apps pined to the start menu (ever) so I don't see how its so hard to group and use. Even so you still have a desktop and super bar empty waiting for more shortcuts. The classic start menu is a thing of the past, and im pretty sure Microsoft is going to push it no matter what. Just like the Windows XP users being forced to upgrade from XP to 7 because of no DirectX 11 support. And look what happened, even the XP users like 7 even tho its just as heavy as Vista. I still remember the whole XP forever pact, which didn't last long when DiRT2 (one of the first DX11 enhanced games) came out with DX11 support. People easily forget that the new start menu is not just a start menu. Its a platform for a entirely new breed of applications. It has such a impact on Windows that the API had to be changed. With Visual Studio 2011 including WinRT and Metro functions, I think its safe to say Metro will be around for the next 5-10 years in Windows. Tho it might not be the default desktop environment in later versions, it will always have its own build. Once develiopers start launching Metro applications for just about everything we do (I see a news feed for OCN being one of them). A lot of peoples opinions will change, right now you got the ice cream in a cup. All the applications later is the chocolate icing and sprinkles. thumb.gif
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post #116 of 418
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Yeah it takes some time to get used to. Its like switching from and automatic to a stick shift. It takes time to get used to it but once you do, you won't go back lol.

Ha! I beg to differ. I tried it out for a full week as a RemoteFX VM. DESPISED IT. Not because it's a bad OS. It was all Metro's fault. All of it. No start menu? No go.

And before the "accept change/you're not intuitive/blah blah blah monkey scrotum" I have a Windows Phone with Metro, and I ADORE the UI on my phone. Honestly, I can't stand anything else as a phone now. BUT ON MY 2560 * 1600 30" monitor, I CANNOT effectively use the Metro UI in Win8.

People who will love the OS: Younger teenagers... the same ones who want to upgrade their iPods/iPads every generation.

I want to add one more thing, business will not be adopting Windows 8. I promise you this. There would just be too much down time between getting the OS out there, and users being able to work with it.
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A lot of peoples opinions will change, right now you got the ice cream in a cup. All the applications later is the chocolate icing and sprinkles. thumb.gif

No amount of chocolate icing and sprinkles will make ice cream that takes like ***** not taste like *****.
Edited by RussianGrimmReaper - 3/12/12 at 1:58pm
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I've yet to try WIndows 8, so I'll reserve judgement.

However, the ribbon in Office is excellent. Perhaps my "learning curve" was cut short by the mere fact that I took an entire 3-month college course dealing with the new interface. Once you learn where things are, you realize that they are more logically placed than before. To a lesser extent, other applications use it as well. I think the ribbon was a great move to help scale functionality across applications; you already know, from using other, more or less complicated applications, where things should be.
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Sorry but it isn't that hard to use and it doesn't take hours. If any thing it take less time. My mom would find this easier then windows 7 and she would be a real user so world my bro as well my aunts. One guy doesn't equal the every one, just because he had a hard time using it. Do not mean every normal user will. He doesn't prove any thing other then hes having issues with the interface. You guys just making it seem harder then what it really is,
If you guys hate it so much then stick to windows 7 and vista, no one is forcing you to upgrade to it at gun point, some of you guys wanted change and improvements, but when they do it. You guys moan and complain that it isn't in the vision you see fit. Where your vision would make it harder for the normal user. The desktop is still there just click on it and go to it problem solve, so what no windows task bar get over it, or use that 3rd party program vstart to get it back. Some of you guys said your gonna skip it and never use it, I seen a lot of people said the same thing about not using windows 7 because of it wasn't different then windows vista(pre SP2) other then running better and more tweaked. Yet most of those same people went to windows 7 any way.
I swear people of this generation is spoiled little brats that go on a hissy fit if something isn't done there way..

Is this guy serious??? sad-smiley-002.gif


I dont understand why this whole windows 8 thing has turned into such a big ordeal... All MS has to do is add the start menu and it would be a plus for everyone. Personally I dont really like the whole tile scheme, but thats just me. Start menu is definitely a must for desktop users. I think I would like it much better if the tiles were one the regular desktop itself rather than switching screens to go from one to the other. Either way, I am not going to make a huge deal about it.

Anyway the whole point to a consumer preview is to have the consumer preview the product and MS gets the feedback so they can make corrections like this.
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I've yet to try WIndows 8, so I'll reserve judgement.
However, the ribbon in Office is excellent. Perhaps my "learning curve" was cut short by the mere fact that I took an entire 3-month college course dealing with the new interface. Once you learn where things are, you realize that they are more logically placed than before. To a lesser extent, other applications use it as well. I think the ribbon was a great move to help scale functionality across applications; you already know, from using other, more or less complicated applications, where things should be.

The ribbon interface that they incorporated in windows is a plus. It's much faster and it allows you to not have the right click and looking down a list for some functions
    
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The ribbon interface that they incorporated in windows is a plus. It's much faster and it allows you to not have the right click and looking down a list for some functions

And Metro is the exact opposite of that. Instead of presenting the user with information they hide everything behind gestures and hidden hotkeys.
    
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