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Originally Posted by nathris View Post

And Metro is the exact opposite of that. Instead of presenting the user with information they hide everything behind gestures and hidden hotkeys.

The one and only hotkey I use is the start button. What gestures do you refer to?
    
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I use several keyboard shortcuts to get where I want to go, several desktop icons that are relevant to 96% of my daily computing needs and know more than enough keyboard shortcuts to launch / get to just about everything that I need.

How many of you are (power users / average gamer) really still using the start menu so much? If you're from the 3.1 days, then you're definitely still using short cuts and 'Program Groups' on your desktop (like I am). The start menu is largely too long to navigate, too bulky for me, and it rarely gets used more than maybe once a week.

And do you all realize that your entire PC is completely accessible from Windows Explorer? Network, CPL, System Properties, etc etc. Everything is readily available from it.

If you're not familiar with many of Windows shortcut keys by now, I'm seriously surprised you haven't learned or used them:

Windows Key + Pause/Break
Windows Key + D
Shift + CTRL + ESC
CTRL + ALT + ESC
CTRL + ESC
Windows Key + R
CTRL + Shift + Right Click
Right Click Item + Drag

And that's just a tiny segment of shortcuts... let alone what's possible with AHK...
And so on, and so on...

Anyways.
    
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post #123 of 418
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Originally Posted by GanjaSMK View Post

I use several keyboard shortcuts to get where I want to go, several desktop icons that are relevant to 96% of my daily computing needs and know more than enough keyboard shortcuts to launch / get to just about everything that I need.
How many of you are (power users / average gamer) really still using the start menu so much? If you're from the 3.1 days, then you're definitely still using short cuts and 'Program Groups' on your desktop (like I am). The start menu is largely too long to navigate, too bulky for me, and it rarely gets used more than maybe once a week.
And do you all realize that your entire PC is completely accessible from Windows Explorer? Network, CPL, System Properties, etc etc. Everything is readily available from it.
If you're not familiar with many of Windows shortcut keys by now, I'm seriously surprised you haven't learned or used them:
Windows Key + Pause/Break
Windows Key + D
Shift + CTRL + ESC
CTRL + ALT + ESC
CTRL + ESC
Windows Key + R
CTRL + Shift + Right Click
Right Click Item + Drag
And that's just a tiny segment of shortcuts... let alone what's possible with AHK...
And so on, and so on...
Anyways.

Good point. The old start menu was too much of a pain to find stuff. Then they fixed it by adding a search function but then I was left with a long list of applications that I can find by just searching for it. I wonder if there are people who click start, then all programs and look down the entire list to find their program? So maybe this was there way of making the start menu/programs more
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I want to add one more thing, business will not be adopting Windows 8. I promise you this. There would just be too much down time between getting the OS out there, and users being able to work with it.

Hmm yeah you're right. I don't think businesses will adopt Windows 8 with the way the metro ui is but I don't think businesses would've adopted windows 8 regardless of how it looked. If I was a business I surely wouldn't be investing in a new OS so soon. I think businesses got atleast 3-5 more years before they feel the need to upgrade. And I mean businesses like colleges, high schools, work offices and such. There's no need to upgrade from Windows 7 as yet.
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If you delete all of the Metro apps from the start screen and replace them with your own commonly used applications it works well. Takes some time to set it up though
 
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post #125 of 418
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Originally Posted by -iceblade^ View Post

-snip-

the layout of Vista wasn't radically designed.

375
vs
450
the problem with Vista was that it was shipped on machines that were too slow to run it (but had been certified to run it) so people thought it was slow and bloated.
notice that Vista, 7, and now 8's requirements have stayed the same which (along with tweaks) has helped subsequent versions of Windows (and even Vista) feel faster.

Reading comprehension fail. Re-read the post you quoted.
post #126 of 418
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Originally Posted by GanjaSMK View Post

How many of you are (power users / average gamer) really still using the start menu so much?

You've summed up my views on it as well. I actually love win8, yes that's right love it, (I know I'm starting to think I've gone mad...). I don't use a tablet but do use a graphics tablet, so maybe that helps. But re: not being able to get to places fast, key shortcuts since forever have done me well and it's so much quicker than mucking around with the start menu.
Best of all - hold on to your seats folks - you don't have to get it if you don't want to!

cheers
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When I'm on Windows I use the start menu... maybe I'm just strange frown.gif
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When I'm on Windows I use the start menu... maybe I'm just strange frown.gif

Guess we are both strange biggrin.gif
     
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Windows 7 = Windows Vista SP2.
Vista isn't as crappy as many were led to believe, it takes a bit of tweaking to get right.
It's more suitable to compare Windows 8 to Windows ME.

This. Until I put together my new build recently I was running Windows Vista SP1. They fixed a lot of bugs in SP1 and in fact if you look at a comparison between OS's it's pretty on par with Windows 7 performance wise.
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Sample size of 1 is somehow proof?

Stop discussing this video... it's completely retarded to use the inability of person and apply to an entire population.
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