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Show that guy this video and he will use windows 8 flawlessly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGbaAQyz8Q0&feature=related
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Originally Posted by Brutuz View Post


If you think this looks like this, I don't know what went wrong for you with Ubuntu.

I haven't used those more recent versions of Ubuntu, but from that screenshot I can tell those three drop down menus "Applications Places System" at the top left are still there. They behave like Windows 3.1's File Manager's dropdown menus (I'm not saying they perform the same functions at all, it's just the feel of that interface choice), that is what I was talking about. It sure does work, in a basic and crude way, that is. I just never got the reason why Ubuntu was so popular compared to Kubuntu when KDE has a much better interface.
 
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Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post

For example, DirectX9 -> DX10. MS decided to clean the slate and throw out much legacy design and implementation. There were growing pains but the longer term result is better.

The problem here is that DX10 was a failure. Many people complained about it being hard to program for and sluggish performance, but DX11 fixed most of that.

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Originally Posted by -iceblade^ View Post

it's still there, but buried under all the cruft of metro. and it lacks a start menu. if the enhancements were applied to 7 via an SP it'd be really good but eh, it seems MS is going all in on the "WE MUST BOLT 2 OSes TOGETHER" idea and tbh it still needs work. a lot of work...
i'd hoped that the dev preview was just a fluke, but the consumer preview is worse... not likely to switch over (and i'm someone who used Vista at RTM and was happy with it (except for the file copy issues)
the layout of Vista wasn't radically designed.
the problem with Vista was that it was shipped on machines that were too slow to run it (but had been certified to run it) so people thought it was slow and bloated.
notice that Vista, 7, and now 8's requirements have stayed the same which (along with tweaks) has helped subsequent versions of Windows (and even Vista) feel faster.

I'm wondering how many of you guys actually used Vista when it was released? It was HORRIBLE.

I don't get how anyone could say otherwise. It wasn't even usable until SP1. Sp2 especially fixed a lot of problems with Vista.

One of the biggest problems Vista had at launch was with the file system. It could take minutes just to empty a few files from the recycle bin and I'm not kidding, minutes.

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Originally Posted by Mr Frosty View Post

They tryin to drive me to Mac?
Lmaooooo..........

Windows 8 will make many Mac converts.....

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Originally Posted by B-rock View Post

I'm not afraid of change, I'll be getting this day 1. Watch how many problems I won't have as I adapt to the new system. Yeah, I'm going to have to learn but I'll be moving forward and embrace change while most of you will stick to 7 like you did XP. I personally had 0 problems with Vista outside of the ones that were my fault. I in fact I had to upgrade to SP1 before I could upgrade to Win 7 otherwise I wasn't able to install it. I bet half of you guys never tried Vista or never gave it a fair chance because you had to God forbid go to a companies website to download the latest drivers.
TL:DR Change happens, get over it and adapt.

Look, we are technical people. We can readily adapt to new ideas and technology. We are a tiny minority of the population. My Dad is JUST like this guy in the video. He used to have all kinds of trouble with windows and then I put him on a Mac and he's all good now. (K.I.S.S.)

People just want to go online and look at YouTube and read the news and check their stocks, they shouldn't need to re-learn how to use a GUI just to do that.

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Originally Posted by tedman View Post

Please do not put Windows 2000 in the same category as Windows ME!
They're like chalk and cheese. One is legendary, the other is a bird s**t to the face.

Thank you. I used Windows 2000 from the first day it came out. It was miles ahead of ME/98 and even though it was "designed" for business, most consumer software supported it right out of the gate. Including games.

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Originally Posted by Redwoodz View Post

Most average people don't know what to do with any OS to be honest, at least when they first use it. There is no way you can say W8 would be harder to use than an Apple OS to a prior Windows user. People are just blowing this way out of proportion.

Yes I can. smile.gif

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Originally Posted by funky882 View Post

I've always wondered how younger people can immediately figure out a new piece of software or interface, opposed to people who of older age.
I'm 17 and when I play a new game I can find my way around almost instantly, controls and general understanding of what im doing and where I need to be are clear.
Same thing goes for the android interface, it took me no time to figure it out, opposed to my dad, who needed help along the way.
Maybe people don't understand how it works so they never fully understand how to use it?

Someday you will be old, and then you WILL understand. biggrin.gif
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post #144 of 418
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I haven't used those more recent versions of Ubuntu, but from that screenshot I can tell those three drop down menus "Applications Places System" at the top left are still there. They behave like Windows 3.1's File Manager's dropdown menus (I'm not saying they perform the same functions at all, it's just the feel of that interface choice), that is what I was talking about. It sure does work, in a basic and crude way, that is. I just never got the reason why Ubuntu was so popular compared to Kubuntu when KDE has a much better interface.

Better in this case is subjective.

Back before the mess that is Gnome 3 came out, I loved Gnome 2 for it's simplicity. KDE was too flashy and too bloated for me. But ever since Gnome 3, I've gone even more simplistic and moved to DWM and occasionally ScrotWM. Which to you, would probably seem archaic and worthy of the dinosaur age.

But that's the beauty with Linux, you aren't tied to just one interface. You can swap them at your hearts desire, and choose from hundreds.
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Windows 7!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You said about resolution? What's the minimum resolution Metro UI can go?
1024x768 smile.gif
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post #147 of 418
Windows 8 UI is a fail in so many aspects.
Like the old saying "If it ain't broke....don't fix it "
Windows 8 UI is broke from the start. It needs to be scrapped.
Yes I run Windows 7 also, and it is fine.
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So you just leave all of your apps running in the background...

Pretty much lol. The Metro apps aren't that resourceful, I haven't notice a slow down because of this as yet.
    
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Better in this case is subjective.
Back before the mess that is Gnome 3 came out, I loved Gnome 2 for it's simplicity. KDE was too flashy and too bloated for me. But ever since Gnome 3, I've gone even more simplistic and moved to DWM and occasionally ScrotWM. Which to you, would probably seem archaic and worthy of the dinosaur age.
But that's the beauty with Linux, you aren't tied to just one interface. You can swap them at your hearts desire, and choose from hundreds.

Yes, it certainly is subjective, and to be honest, it is not too inefficient; KDE just looked more sophisticated, but I fully agree with your last sentence, that's the beauty of Linux, you get to choose!
 
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The problem here is that MS is trying too damn hard. MAC OS has retained the upper toolbar for ages. Why? Because it works and Mac types know how to get around with it. Windows has a lot of intuitive and familiar elements that need to be retained as well. I don't know why they're trying to re-invent the wheel here. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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