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I am using W8 DP on my laptop (dual-booting with Kubuntu) and honestly... It depends on the person. Sadly most of the people who do the talking out there are the haters, people that sometimes do not want change (this same group can be seen on Facebook crying about and around when Mark introduces changes to the UI).

Now comes my POV. I'll be honest on this one -I don't really like metro. But it may be because I do not own a tablet, but still I don't know if I would like using it on a tablet. As for the general experience, it has been great I mean... You still have the original desktop. You just click on the "Desktop" button and the main desktop with the bottom toolbar appears. A lot of people seem to forget that still exists and works just like on W7.

I'm also not dying terribly for the Windows Live apps, but the new calendar and mail seem like an awesome addition to me. I receive a lot of e-mails and have all my class and work schedules synced to the Gmail calendar so having a Calendar app is great, I like it!

As for the "taking hours to find stuff" that's why they implemented a search feature :] I use it a lot, and so should you!

I think that's it. Other than the obvious bugs here and there W8 is not as bad as I though, but I am saying that from the fact that I can ignore Metro for the most part and still use the old desktop UI.
     
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Ok, I just brought my laptop to my mother. Exactly the same reaction. She couldn't even figure out how to get past the welcome screen. She kept clicking and double clicking on the screen but nothing happened. There is no button there to move on either. This is what you normally do on a welcome screen or in a game's main menu. But no, Microsoft decided you had to either click and drag the screen upwards or use the scroll wheel on the mouse, or use the keyboard. And this is all to mimic what you do on a smartphone or a tablet, with no added benefit to a desktop user.

But anyway, onto IE10 (Metro version). How do you access the toolbar ? She had no idea. Moving the mouse to the top like you do when IE9 or Firefox or any other browser is in fullscreen mode doesn't do it. Moving the mouse to the bottom of the screen doesn't do anything either. Oh right, you have to right click to bring up the context... er... toolbar.

Shut down all the apps she opened ? She didn't even know they were still running, let alone close them. This is so counter-intuitive because this is not the desktop Windows paradigm.

Shut down windows ? Ok, now we are laughing. Mind you, my mother isn't using an old OS like Windows XP, she is using Windows 7. Then I showed her the video."Yep, just like me.".

This Metro thing has some resemblance to IE9: it is fast, but it is not finished at all and the interface is clunky. I still don't understand what is all that free space doing in IE9's interface above the back / forward buttons, address bar and tabs. It doesn't even display the name of the page you're in. It's as if Microsoft doesn't want to copy the other browsers like Chrome, Firefox and Opera and put a Menu button in there, but they can't figure out what to do either (they could have pulled everything up to use that space, but they didn't even do that - what is interesting is that they did it in fullscreen mode lol, and you can't even put the old menu bar in there to maximize space usage, the menu bar goes below the address bar), so they just leave a blank space lol. And even if they did put a menu button in there, all the space to the right would still be unused, so they would have to also put the tabs in there, just like other browser already do. As it is IE9 looks like some generic unbranded browser (if such a thing even existed).
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post #153 of 418
The loss of the start button is the worst idea they ever had. But they'll probably think they'll be fine if they just add it again, if they even decide to do that.
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post #154 of 418
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Exactly, and tbh, once you set your PC settings (which are now saved in the cloud so you never need to change them again) just launch the desktop app and voila, Windows 7 but better. And sleep mode is far better now, it actually works and saves much more energy, it's very well optimized now.
So no need to restart unless system update.

That right there is enough to make me want nothing to do with it. Sure I love to have a cloud. I just love it to be my own! I guess I need to get a couple more copies of 7 before they are unavailable. This whole cloud computing thing is driving me bonkers. Everyone wants my data under the guise of it being convenient.. Why is it that people are so excited to put all their data right out there willingly? I put enough data out there as it is inadvertently, I don't need to be doing it willingly as well. Sorry slightly off topic but geez.
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That right there is enough to make me want nothing to do with it. Sure I love to have a cloud. I just love it to be my own! I guess I need to get a couple more copies of 7 before they are unavailable. This whole cloud computing thing is driving me bonkers. Everyone wants my data under the guise of it being convenient.. Why is it that people are so excited to put all their data right out there willingly? I put enough data out there as it is inadvertently, I don't need to be doing it willingly as well. Sorry slightly off topic but geez.

Indeed. This cloud settings thing could potentially cause conflicts of interest with certain privacy policies, particularly those which mandate that domestic cloud services must be used and not American ones.
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I haven't used those more recent versions of Ubuntu, but from that screenshot I can tell those three drop down menus "Applications Places System" at the top left are still there. They behave like Windows 3.1's File Manager's dropdown menus (I'm not saying they perform the same functions at all, it's just the feel of that interface choice), that is what I was talking about. It sure does work, in a basic and crude way, that is. I just never got the reason why Ubuntu was so popular compared to Kubuntu when KDE has a much better interface.

GNOME 3/Unity and such are trying (just like Metro) to be better suited for a tablet, that's why I find it ironic that the best tablet UI is KDE's "touch version". Of course, these kinds of things are very subjective.
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So anyone who has this installed in VB, anyone have the guest additions working properly? Is there an older version that works? 4.1.8 doesn't seem to work for me?

Anyone have any success with it?

Host: Win 7 x64
Guest: Win 8 CP x64

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i'm still on XP Pro, & learning Linux as we speak.

..many hundreds of crashes/errors/reloads finally managed to persuade me to look somewhere besides Microsoft..'tis a great and fortuitous time.
    
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i'm still on XP Pro, & learning Linux as we speak.
..many hundreds of crashes/errors/reloads finally managed to persuade me to look somewhere besides Microsoft..'tis a great and fortuitous time.

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Creating an interface is creating a visual language people need to learn. People want to use it, not learn it. They already spent time learning it when you changed it last time. They did this with their Office suite and no one knows how to use 2003 vs 2007 vs 2010.
Keep your good ideas and improve upon them instead of offering such drastic changes.

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