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oh what i'm asking is that it's not faster because of the ui changes, but it's some changes not related to the ui ? that the ui has no relations to it being faster, but to some other changes...? that they're just changing the ui to make it look like a mac or something?

Both, but people are bashing the hell out of the Metro because well... the Windows interface has been the same for the past 16 years. They don't know how to let go and not get too attached to things. Microsoft is doing a wonderful job at their release schedule, because people who don't wish to use 8 can stick with 7. I might write a review once the Release Candidate comes out later on, but otherwise I have nothing but good things to say about it (unless some how Microsoft completely changes it between Beta and Release). It has both better UI and architectural improvements, the operating systems memory usage was cut in half, it installs in half the time, and it boots in about a third of the time compared to Windows 7. I have challenged OCN members to do a multitasking race with me for over a week now to push Windows 8 Metro vs Windows 7 Start Menu facts to the public. And I haven't had a single person step up and do it. Every single person who's complained about Windows 8 has only stated the same thing, start menu, start menu, start menu. The Consumer Preview has been out for a tad over a week now, and there's still people (the same people) posting complaints over and over again (basically copy + paste) about Metro (some get the idea if they complain enough it will go away). Then they deliberately post "im open minded" in their posts to make it seem like they welcome Metro with open arms, supposedly "until they've tried it". I guess the only way to see for yourself is to download and try it. If you like it you can check out the Windows 8 Fan Club for a place to discuss the real benefits of the operating system without someone deliberately trolling.
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That was great. Anyone notice the script running on the other monitor? LMAO

It looked like some kind of live IRC chat.
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post #173 of 418
I thought Microsoft had learned their lesson with the drastic design change in Office 2007 when everyone had to go through the massive pain of re-learning where all the buttons went.

I've been using Office 2010 for over a year now but I would still get things done FAR quicker in Office 2003 because I'm so damn familiar with it.
post #174 of 418
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Both, but people are bashing the hell out of the Metro because well... the Windows interface has been the same for the past 16 years. They don't know how to let go and not get too attached to things. Microsoft is doing a wonderful job at their release schedule, because people who don't wish to use 8 can stick with 7. I might write a review once the Release Candidate comes out later on, but otherwise I have nothing but good things to say about it (unless some how Microsoft completely changes it between Beta and Release). It has both better UI and architectural improvements, the operating systems memory usage was cut in half, it installs in half the time, and it boots in about a third of the time compared to Windows 7. I have challenged OCN members to do a multitasking race with me for over a week now to push Windows 8 Metro vs Windows 7 Start Menu facts to the public. And I haven't had a single person step up and do it. Every single person who's complained about Windows 8 has only stated the same thing, start menu, start menu, start menu. The Consumer Preview has been out for a tad over a week now, and there's still people (the same people) posting complaints over and over again (basically copy + paste) about Metro (some get the idea if they complain enough it will go away). Then they deliberately post "im open minded" in their posts to make it seem like they welcome Metro with open arms, supposedly "until they've tried it". I guess the only way to see for yourself is to download and try it. If you like it you can check out the Windows 8 Fan Club for a place to discuss the real benefits of the operating system without someone deliberately trolling.

From what I understand multitasking in Win 8 has been capped at 4 apps. If that's the case do tell how you're supposed to max 2GB of RAM let alone 8 or more.
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Both, but people are bashing the hell out of the Metro because well... the Windows interface has been the same for the past 16 years. They don't know how to let go and not get too attached to things. Microsoft is doing a wonderful job at their release schedule, because people who don't wish to use 8 can stick with 7. I might write a review once the Release Candidate comes out later on, but otherwise I have nothing but good things to say about it (unless some how Microsoft completely changes it between Beta and Release). It has both better UI and architectural improvements, the operating systems memory usage was cut in half, it installs in half the time, and it boots in about a third of the time compared to Windows 7. I have challenged OCN members to do a multitasking race with me for over a week now to push Windows 8 Metro vs Windows 7 Start Menu facts to the public. And I haven't had a single person step up and do it. Every single person who's complained about Windows 8 has only stated the same thing, start menu, start menu, start menu. The Consumer Preview has been out for a tad over a week now, and there's still people (the same people) posting complaints over and over again (basically copy + paste) about Metro (some get the idea if they complain enough it will go away). Then they deliberately post "im open minded" in their posts to make it seem like they welcome Metro with open arms, supposedly "until they've tried it". I guess the only way to see for yourself is to download and try it. If you like it you can check out the Windows 8 Fan Club for a place to discuss the real benefits of the operating system without someone deliberately trolling.

Did you stop to think that maybe people who don't like it, don't like it because it takes longer to do what they want now? Or better yet, because they simply don't like the design of it? Or most importantly, there was never anything wrong with the "old" UI and they don't want "change" because it doesn't improve their usability of the OS? For most people, its like Microsoft trying to change the wheel from being a circular shape to a square. Yeah, you can still rotate it, but its not going to be as affective. Yes, you are going to have people who like it or don't mind / care, but for a whole a lot of other people out there, its going to be horrible to them.

Change doesn't always = good.
No change doesn't always = bad.

But personally, I wish Microsoft just gave us an option to enable metro or not. I don't care if they want to set it as default, just give us an option to turn it off if we chose to. There's absolutely no reason why they can't.
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Lol, Apple must be eagerly awaiting Windows 8. tongue.gif
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And you, like most people who keep going on about Win 95 and Vista being ****, have no clue what you're talking about. If you had actually used Win 95 you would have known how great it was.

True says, I never had anything against 95 it was different at the time, but vista wasnt really my cup a tea it took some tweaking to get it working to my liking.
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Both, but people are bashing the hell out of the Metro because well... the Windows interface has been the same for the past 16 years. They don't know how to let go and not get too attached to things. Microsoft is doing a wonderful job at their release schedule, because people who don't wish to use 8 can stick with 7. I might write a review once the Release Candidate comes out later on, but otherwise I have nothing but good things to say about it (unless some how Microsoft completely changes it between Beta and Release). It has both better UI and architectural improvements, the operating systems memory usage was cut in half, it installs in half the time, and it boots in about a third of the time compared to Windows 7. I have challenged OCN members to do a multitasking race with me for over a week now to push Windows 8 Metro vs Windows 7 Start Menu facts to the public. And I haven't had a single person step up and do it. Every single person who's complained about Windows 8 has only stated the same thing, start menu, start menu, start menu. The Consumer Preview has been out for a tad over a week now, and there's still people (the same people) posting complaints over and over again (basically copy + paste) about Metro (some get the idea if they complain enough it will go away). Then they deliberately post "im open minded" in their posts to make it seem like they welcome Metro with open arms, supposedly "until they've tried it". I guess the only way to see for yourself is to download and try it. If you like it you can check out the Windows 8 Fan Club for a place to discuss the real benefits of the operating system without someone deliberately trolling.


From what I understand multitasking in Win 8 has been capped at 4 apps. If that's the case do tell how you're supposed to max 2GB of RAM let alone 8 or more.
Yes War please elaborate. Especially when you talk about this "multitask race" of yours. Is it like the same way how windows phone "smoked" the other ones? As I mentioned before theres a difference between how fast a program can be brought up and how much can be seen at the same time. Sure a window can be binded into a shortcut for convenience, having to be limited to 4 windows is kind of hampering any kind of productivity.
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Ones that I've used:

DOS - Not necessarily Windows but I did game on DOS back when Jill of the Jungle was new
95 - Good
98 - Good
XP - Good
Vista - Good
W7 - Good

I've never had serious, crippling issues with Windows' functionality which is why, after 15 years of use, I still use it.
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So in short, Architectural improvements are unrelated to the User Interface changes?

Changing the User Interface for the sake of changing the User Interface?

I hope they give us two dvds for windows 8 in the same package or something...

What about those people with 16-32gb + ram ( since it'll be common at some point in the future? ) to max that?
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I fear this will just hand over market share to MAC... mad.gif


Soooo... Microsoft wants to buy us all touch screens?thumb.gif
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