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Out of curiosity, with there being no start button on the desktop, what happens when you hit the windows key on your keyboard?

I believe the windows key does take you back to the metro (home) screen
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post #232 of 418
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Originally Posted by benpack101 View Post

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Out of curiosity, with there being no start button on the desktop, what happens when you hit the windows key on your keyboard?
I believe the windows key does take you back to the metro (home) screen
Windows key will bring you from desktop back to Metro UI launch screen and back to desktop with repeated presses as long as those are the only two applications running in sequence. If you launch another Metro UI app, the windows key will always bring you back to the Metro UI but it will no longer switch you to the desktop, rather the last used Metro app. At this point you have to resort to Alt+Tab for switching, or re-launching desktop from Metro UI launch screen.

It's weak, very weak, and it simply does not work for the desktop. As many have said, solution is simple, give an option between two interfaces. After all, if you navigate to "C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu" (no quotes) the old structure is still all there, so why would it be difficult to simply associate a UI option to it?

I'm convinced Micro$oft is screwing with us because they want people to test Metro UI. They already know that the classic look works and nobody will complain about it.
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Just ran this experiment, only took her a minute and ten seconds.
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post #234 of 418
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Real shame here M$. That is the average consumer right in the video. My own father cannot type correctly to this day and has had no interest in learning how to do it since he doesn't need to learn. SOME people don't need to learn how to use a start button hot corner either. And the end of the vid is priceless. Mac's hot corners make no sense to me so that is some irony right there.
I will stay with windows 7 until windows 8 gets a gets a helluva service pack.
For those arguing that Vista sucks, you aren't seeing the whole picture going back some years. The worst M$ OS was probably ME (especially after "upgrading" from 2000) in my opinion. It was very cumbersome and when XP came out it was a godsend. Vista wasn't the problem, it was the hardware most preassembled PCs shipped it on that couldn't handle it. After SP2 it was completely fine. But by that point Win7 was right around the corner and ran much better compared to Vista's initial release. Heck, windows 3.1 made more sense than this, and it didn't have a start button at all.

No. Vista is garbage.[/thread]
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post #235 of 418
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No. Vista is garbage.[/thread]

You people really need to get off the Vista hate bandwagon. It's been way over done. It was only bad because it was new and the hardware was old. Now that hardware is all caught up, there's no problems. Besides, Seven is pretty much Vista SP2.
post #236 of 418
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Microsoft is pushing Metro as hard as they possibly can. They look at the success they had with Kinect, and the satisfaction of Windows Phone owners (all 100 of them) and figure that the same approach will work for the 400+ million Windows owners. Microsoft wants businesses to run their apps in Metro, and it will probably take them a decade to recover from their mistake, if they can even fully recover.
Windows 7 did it right. They took Vista, fixed a bunch of stuff and slimmed it down. They added change, like the new taskbar, but it was subtle and completely reversible.
But it seems that despite the overwhelming success that brought they decided to go in a completely opposite direction, adding tons of new features that while not exactly bad, are very poorly implemented. The part of the OS that is recognizably Windows hasn't been touched at all, and the improvements to Explorer and the task manager are buried under a clumsy Metro UI that visibly clashes and is only barely usable with a keyboard and mouse.
To quote a French poet and WWII hero that you've never heard of but will probably read in Leonard Nimoy's voice,
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Originally Posted by Antoine de Saint-Exupery 
Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.
This is why Windows 7 is so good, and why Windows 8 will be the biggest disaster in Microsoft's history.

I agree with everything you've said minus "The part of the OS that is recognizably Windows hasn't been touched at all." I'm assuming you mean the desktop but I would argue that the most recognizable part of Windows is the start menu which as we know is gone.

Also, that quote from the WWII hero is great, I couldn't agree with it more.
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What are going to do? Run Windows 7 the rest of your life? I have noticed double the speed on Windows 8 over Windows 7. Twice as fast install, twice as fast boot, twice as fast file copy, twice as fast functionality, the works. Like I said before its already become part of Visual Studio, no matter how much boycotting or QQ'n anyone does over it, it wont go away. Lately Windows versions have been based on top of the previous generations. Windows 9 will most likely be based Windows 8 except with more tweaks and changes, just like 8 is based on 7, and 7 is based on Vista. There would be no point in spending the years to get this far to completely trash it. There is a strong possibility that the classic start menu is gone forever. We wont know until Windows 9 is released 2-3 years from now.

Run 7 the rest of my life? No, but I ran XP for a very long time and completely skipped Vista. I am in the same position now as I was then. There is simply no reason for me to even consider upgrading to 8 when 7 does everything I need it to and more. Why would I upgrade to an OS that is convoluted and unintuitive? Not only is it harder for me to use but I feel like I'd be making a mistake of installing a mobile OS on my PC and/or laptop.

I personally experienced worse speeds with Windows 8 but I'm assuming it is because I installed it on top of Windows 7 on my MacBook's Windows partition. It was seriously bad but was not the reason I wiped said partition and reinstalled 7. I also seriously doubt that you've noticed that much of an improvement.

You also cannot say for sure that it won't go away. If there is enough of a revolt from Windows users (which seems to be huge) and the product flops who knows, maybe the OS will be redesigned after 8.
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wow seriously? like someone else said, you people need to come out of your caves. windows 8 Is very innovative, and very nice and polished, and professional.
you guys brag about building these really powerful rigs, but cant adapt to a new GOOD OS? it took me an hour to find and utilize all the features on windows 8. and its a lot better then the "classic desktop experience".. iv been using the consumer preview since day one and its been amazing. no issues. if anything its faster at multitasking then any other windows os.
the problem isn't with windows 8, the problem lies within the beholder,.. you. change is going to happen no matter if you like it or not. embrace it, learn it, and make the best of it. and who knows? maybe you'll like it.
cant stay with windows 7 forever...… rolleyes.gif
and to all of you that say windows 8 is the same as 7 just with a new theme or crappy metro, its not. windows 8 was built from the ground up. there was 100,000 changes from the developer preview to the consumer preview. and METRO is all based on HTML5. yeah, may look like windows 7, but the internals are different. the only similarity's are windows explorer, and aero. everything else is different.

My rig is 5ish years old and I love it. I might not be able to stick with 7 forever but I can try! Its not like XP has vanished into thin air after all this time. smile.gif
Edited by Zulli85 - 3/13/12 at 10:40am
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post #237 of 418
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You people really need to get off the Vista hate bandwagon. It's been way over done. It was only bad because it was new and the hardware was old. Now that hardware is all caught up, there's no problems. Besides, Seven is pretty much Vista SP2.

Personally the only difference I saw going from Vista to 7 was that 7 was a touch faster. Vista was pretty damn good if you used a clean install on something with the specs of my sig rig or better. A crapware loaded Dell with a gig of DDR2, not so much biggrin.gif
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The only thing this proves is that the old user interface sucked, because he got lost in it. It's not meant to be used most of the time in Windows 8... this is exactly what Windows 8 is trying to solve. This video is dumb.
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Am I the only one in this thread who's actually adopted Windows 8 as their day to day OS? smile.gif
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Windows 8 takes like 10 minutes to get used to, pssh if that. I feel as though it is fairly simple to use once you actually learn where the stuff is. When you go to either corner on the right side of the screen there is a start like bar that pops up that will take you to anywhere you want to go. Even has a search bar if need be. I'm not too big of a fan of metro on a desktop because I rarely ever use it, but everything else is great and responsive. Haven't had one problem yet.
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