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Poll Results: Which camera if I want to get one NOW?

 
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    D7000
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    D5100
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    D90
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post #11 of 26
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I would love to get the d7000 but its just way too hard to find and kind of out of my budget. I think I'm set on a used D90 as I can get the body + 18-105 VR lens for around $800. I used my friends D90 today and love the on hand controls. Even though it's older, I find it more pleasant to use lol.

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It really has to do with the way you use a camera. If you like to just a point and shoot, maybe move a dial or 2, the D5100 is a nice camera. Personally I found it to be very frustrating because it basically IS a fancy point and shoot where I prefer more manual settings / control for taking pics. After owning a D70 for many years, the D5100 just drove me nuts. It doesn't save most settings (Resets to default), but if you just use the dial settings all the time it's not an issue. If you want to use a remote shutter, you have ~1 minute to take the pic before it resets back to single shot mode.

The D7000 on the other hand (Traded in the D5100 at BB for it) is a dream to me! It's a D70 upgraded with D5100 features and more. It has a solid body, not the plastic toy feel the D3100 / 5100 have. It also has 2 user definable settings right on the main dial. It shoots 6 fps with good lighting, has 2x memory card slots, etc. etc.... I really could go on about how much better it is but since you have already used the D5100, spend a little time with the D7000 and you will understand. It comes with a better lens kit and a 365ish page manual just to name a couple of differences in the box. I honestly liked my D70 more than the D5100. Maybe I'm too picky or too used to the way my old camera works (Up for sale in OCN Marketplace BTW wink.gif) to change models now, but the D7000 fits me perfectly.

Just to throw another log in the fire, you can find a used Nikon D300 (Pro series camera) for about the same price as a new D7000. biggrin.gif
post #13 of 26
I agree with the poster above... get the D7000. I started with a D3100 and regretted it after a few months of using it. I sold it and bought a used D7000 for $900. Couldn't be happier. The D3100 is very close to the D5100. It frustrated me with it's lack of dedicated buttons to change things like the metering, autofocus mode, AF points etc... Also when you put some bigger lenses on like a telephoto, the handling becomes an issue, or at least it did for me. The D3100 was way too small with my 70-300 telephoto mounted on it. It's much more comfortable with my D7000 now.

Go with the D7000, you won't regret it.
    
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I agree with the poster above... get the D7000. I started with a D3100 and regretted it after a few months of using it. I sold it and bought a used D7000 for $900. Couldn't be happier. The D3100 is very close to the D5100. It frustrated me with it's lack of dedicated buttons to change things like the metering, autofocus mode, AF points etc... Also when you put some bigger lenses on like a telephoto, the handling becomes an issue, or at least it did for me. The D3100 was way too small with my 70-300 telephoto mounted on it. It's much more comfortable with my D7000 now.
Go with the D7000, you won't regret it.

Agreed on the D3100/5100 being a bit clumsy for people with big hands and if you can afford it D7000 is the way to go!

Not doubting you but all those things I change within 3 clicks and less than 5 seconds as it's always on the main screen (this is on a D5100).
Is having dedicated buttons that much better faster? I need to get my hands on a D7000...


@ Compaddict "It doesn't save most settings (Resets to default)" are you referring to switching modes M A S P?
 
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post #15 of 26
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Agreed on the D3100/5100 being a bit clumsy for people with big hands and if you can afford it D7000 is the way to go!
Not doubting you but all those things I change within 3 clicks and less than 5 seconds as it's always on the main screen (this is on a D5100).

It's not terribly slower, but you have to take your eye away from the viewfinder every time you want to change something. With the dedicated buttons it's easy to change and you can see what you selected in the viewfinder or using the lcd screen on the top of the camera.

At first I never understood the point of the higher end cameras having that little lcd screen at the top, but now I find it a lot easier looking at that and making little changes in between shots rather than having to turn the big screen on to see what your settings are. It's just more convenient.
    
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it basically IS a fancy point and shoot where I prefer more manual settings / control for taking pics.

Wait... what?

D5100:
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D7000:
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Both cameras offer PASM modes, and neither one is a glorified point-and-shoot like you're claiming. Both have the same sensor, take the same lenses and are capable of outputting identical images. Unless the OP requires features and button layout that the D7000 has to offer, he will still be able to create the same final product that someone with a D7000 would. Sure, the D7000 is the better camera from a usability standpoint, but there's a hefty price to pay for that convenience, and not everyone needs it.
post #17 of 26
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I would love to get the d7000 but its just way too hard to find and kind of out of my budget. I think I'm set on a used D90 as I can get the body + 18-105 VR lens for around $800. I used my friends D90 today and love the on hand controls. Even though it's older, I find it more pleasant to use lol.
Thanks for the input guys! rep to all!

$800 in my opinion is overpriced for the D90 these days. The only reason to buy a D90 over the D5100 is if you're shooting old AF lenses that absolutely need the in-body AF-motor, at least in my opinion. Yes, the ergonomics might be better for some people on the D90, but that is all personal preference. The reasons why the D5100 better is is much more extensive: the fantastic 16 MP sensor (yes, I know the resolution isn't that big of a deal, but the noise characteristics of the D5100 blow the D90 out of the water), much improved Live View along with the swivel screen (one of the things I miss the most from my D5000 is the swivel screen, but the crappy LV on the last-gen Nikons will not be missed), improved functionality of auto dynamic range (a very nice feature), vastly improved video quality, as well as improved audio for video.

If you absolutely cannot stand the ergonomics of the D5100, then you should probably save up for the D7000. Yes, it is significantly more expensive than the D90, but improvements over the D90 are even more noticeable than in the D5100. I have a D7000, and I absolutely love it. Unless it breaks or I have an opportunity to go full-frame for cheap, I'm not getting rid of it anytime soon.

And I agree with what Sub said. If you're feeling that the D5100 is nothing but a glorified point-and-shoot, then you probably deserve to be shooting an actual point and shoot. I shot a D5000 for a long time, which has very similar control points to the D5100, and I never felt like it was a hassle to change settings on the fly. I have tons of great photos that I took with it, and I don't think a mere point and shoot could have created those same images.
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$800 in my opinion is overpriced for the D90 these days. The only reason to buy a D90 over the D5100 is if you're shooting old AF lenses that absolutely need the in-body AF-motor, at least in my opinion. Yes, the ergonomics might be better for some people on the D90, but that is all personal preference. The reasons why the D5100 better is is much more extensive: the fantastic 16 MP sensor (yes, I know the resolution isn't that big of a deal, but the noise characteristics of the D5100 blow the D90 out of the water), much improved Live View along with the swivel screen (one of the things I miss the most from my D5000 is the swivel screen, but the crappy LV on the last-gen Nikons will not be missed), improved functionality of auto dynamic range (a very nice feature), vastly improved video quality, as well as improved audio for video.
If you absolutely cannot stand the ergonomics of the D5100, then you should probably save up for the D7000. Yes, it is significantly more expensive than the D90, but improvements over the D90 are even more noticeable than in the D5100. I have a D7000, and I absolutely love it. Unless it breaks or I have an opportunity to go full-frame for cheap, I'm not getting rid of it anytime soon.
And I agree with what Sub said. If you're feeling that the D5100 is nothing but a glorified point-and-shoot, then you probably deserve to be shooting an actual point and shoot. I shot a D5000 for a long time, which has very similar control points to the D5100, and I never felt like it was a hassle to change settings on the fly. I have tons of great photos that I took with it, and I don't think a mere point and shoot could have created those same images.

you think $800 would be overpriced for the D90 body + 18-105 lens? hmmm....

my thing is i'm buying the camera for primarily pictures. i rarely if ever take video. i have no qualms about the d5100 but i do prefer the ergonomics of the d90. at this point, i'm pretty much just waiting. it's not that I can't afford the D7000 right now. but more the idea that i dont feel like paying the additional markup since it's hard to find right now.

EDIT: i defintely do not feel that the d5100 is a glorified point and shoot. most of the pictures ive taken could only be done on that level of dslr imo. its really down to ergonomics i guess.
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Even just for pictures I'd still say the D5100 is a better option. As I mentioned, the newer sensor is much better at dealing with noise, especially at high ISO. You'd probably have an extra stop or two of usable ISO values, which in low light could be the difference between getting or missing the shot.
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@ Compaddict "It doesn't save most settings (Resets to default)" are you referring to switching modes M A S P?
The first setting that comes to mind (Most aggravating) is the setting for continuous shots. If you look at the setting knobs sub50hz posted (Nice job BTW!) for continuous / remote / timer, / etc. the D7000 is set with the secondary knob under the primary and it stays in that setting until you change it. The D5100 you have to set this on the screen menu which is only temporary. I don't remember if it resets to single shot every time you turn the camera on, but that is one setting that I leave it in most of the time.

I won't deny that I may not have given the D5100 a fair shakedown, it's enough of a change from what I'm used to that I wasn't going to waste my time with it. That's just my opinion but I know there are many that feel the same way I do. My N65 (35mm film) was much like the D70 I upgraded to and that I had both cameras for ~7 years each, so maybe it's just being a matter of keeping pretty much the same body style and configuration that I'm used to. Maybe as simple a difference as choosing to buy a Nikon vs Cannon. IMO .. the D7000 is the winner of the choices on the OP poll.

Seriously rakunSA, you have already spent time with the D5100 as I have so give the D7000 a try (Bestbuy gives you 30? days to return/exchange) and decide after getting a hands on experience which one you like better. My D7000 will most likely be the last camera for me (Unless it gets broken, lost or stolen). It does everything I need in a camera and I love it. It's kinda like buying a car, either it feels right or it doesn't. wink.gif

Good Luck! smile.gif
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