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Fair enough, saving money is always great, fellow student here. wink.gif
But since the budget is that high anyway you just can't go wrong with an SSD, the HDD is pretty much the only thing bottlenecking new computers nowadays.

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I guess as well considering there are components to be salvaged from her old computer too!

Back to what I originally said, then; some great suggestions in this thread!
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$210 GTX 480 Basically a steal deal right here. No GPU will be able to compete for the price.
$200 2500k
$170 P67 Extreme4 Gen3
$50 2x4GB Low voltage 1600Mhz RAM
$94 64GB Crucial M4
$92 Corsair H80
$88 Win 7 64 bit
~$904

Lastly what PSU is it? if it's not a quality PSU, you might want to grab a different one wink.gif 80+ cert bronze at the least imo. An OEM psu can be harmful to components. thumb.gif

If you are near a microcenter you can get the CPU and mobo for cheaper ($315 for both 2500k and z68 extreme4 gen3) wink.gif
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If WoW is a priority game or other MMOs might be in the future, an SSD is heavily recommended. Frankly, it's one of the best places to spend the budget, since a faster video card won't have nearly as big an impact on that sort of game. SSDs are pretty pointless for other games, but not for WoW. (Textures will load faster, which won't always be apparent, but will reduce Ironforge lag, & other delays in objects appearing.)

You have plenty of budget, so I'll give you a basic build with some options. Remember you can always use the old computer as a hand-me-down for your favorite family member or something if re-using parts wouldn't save that much money.

CPU: i5-2500k - $200
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57962&vpn=BX80623I52500K&manufacture=Intel&promoid=1215
This is a no-brainer, unless you don't want to overclock (i5-2500 instead then).

CPU Cooler
Cheap - Coolermaster 212+ - $23
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&vpn=RR%2DB10%2D212P%2DG1&manufacture=COOLERMASTER&promoid=1215
A bit Quieter - Gelid Tranquillo - $40
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63759&vpn=CC%2DTranQ%2D02%2DA&manufacture=Gelid%20Solutions%20Ltd%2E
Both of these coolers should easily handle a standard overclock (4.5ish). You can also look on Amazon or Nan's Gaming Gear for the very good & very quiet HR-02 Macho @ $50. Or go top of the line with a Noctua D14 or Thermalright Silver Arrow for about $70-85. Don't bother with the enclosed water coolers everyone seems to recommend here: they are generally noisier, always offer less price/performance, and if they beat the top-of-the line air coolers in pure performance, they don't do it by much. If for some reason you look into a top-of-the-line air cooler, make sure it fits in your chosen case (height lower than case's clearance. For instance, the HR-02 is 160mm tall and the bit fenix merc alpha can fit a heat sink requiring up to 163mm of space.

Mobo: Asrock P67 Pro3 - $105
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230
Solid overclocking board, unless you're looking to push a super-heavy overclock. And cheap. If you want a board capable of running 2 GPUs for some reason, the Asrock z68 extreme3 gen3 is your best option @ $120. FYI, the main difference between p67 and z68 for your purposes is that z68 can run integrated graphics if you yank out your GPU for some reason, while the p67 can't.

RAM: PNY 2x4gb 1333 - $35
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178333
You can pay $7 more for 1600 ram, but you won't notice a difference in performance.

Power Supply
Cheapest - reuse the old one. Not terribly recommended, if you are not confident it is a quality power supply.
Recommended - Antec Earthwatts 500D - $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371035
More high quality power than you need, but discounted right now. Does not come with a power cord, so if you don't have an extra lying around you'd have to buy one for a few bucks.
Cheaper - XFX Core 450 - $30 AMIR
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63238&vpn=P1450SX2B9&manufacture=XFX
Plenty of power, quality supply. More before rebate, but a $25 rebate. Might require a molex to pci-e power adapter for the GPU, can't remember if it comes with 2 pci-e power connections. Some video cards come with that adapter. I don't think the one I linked below does.

Case
Cheapest - reuse the old one
Cheap, but works fine (I have one) - Bit Fenix Merc Alpha - $35 (alternative, HAF 912, $50 at same website)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63256&vpn=BFC%2DMRC%2D100%2DKKX1%2DRP&manufacture=BitFenix&promoid=1215
High Quality, with some sound-reducing qualities - Antec P-280 - $113
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=65170&vpn=P280&manufacture=Antec

DVD-burner
Cheapest - reuse the old one
Recommended - Some burner - $16
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45244&vpn=IHAS124%2D04&manufacture=Liteon&promoid=1215

SSD - Crucial m4 128GB - $175
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442
History of being more reliable than the moderately cheaper Sandforce drives, among the fastest on the market. You can save money by getting a 64GB drive, but the 128 size allows you room to fit all the programs you want to benefit from the faster access speed without having to make hard choices and/or watch too closely how much you put on the drive.

HDD
Cheapest - reuse the old one
Cheap - Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm 500GB - $75
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63468&vpn=ST500DM002&manufacture=Seagate&promoid=1215
Good option if not reusing old hard drive and not getting an SSD
Mucho Storage! - WD Green 5400rpm 2TB - $125
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=62047&vpn=WD20EARX&manufacture=Western%20Digital%20WD&promoid=1215
Quiet, quality, tons of space. Slow. Use in conjunction with SSD, & put media files & unimportant programs here.

OS
Windows 7 64-bit OEM - $95
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45271&vpn=GFC%2D02050&manufacture=Microsoft&promoid=1215

GPU
I leave this last because there are so many price/performance points that can reasonably be hit. Also, I'm assuming the computer will be paired with a decent 1920x1080 monitor. If not, you would want to look into getting a decent screen with the rest of the budget as well. Very high quality 23-inch monitor currently on sale for $230:
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=04&l=en&sku=320-2807

Assuming you have a good screen and went with pretty much all the expensive linked options above, you'd have spent about $955, so you still have tons for a video card. You can go anywhere from top-of-the-line 7970 (~$600) to good for decent settings in WoW and low-intensity blizzard games, low on everything else, 7750 ($110). Personally I'd recommend the 6870 below if you want pretty darn good graphics in pretty much any game, lowering the settings some for the hardest current games and maybe future games, but definitely running anything out there. Perhaps a 7870 (~350 when they're available, quite soon) if your GF is a graphics fiend. Oh, also, nothing against Nvidia, they just aren't hitting what I consider to be juicy price/performance points at the moment. Both major companies provide good quality cards though, and Nvidia might be better if you're using a 1920x1080 TV that's fairly large for some reason (better at handling AA).

6870 - $190, $170 after mail in rebate.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150521
You can get a different 6870 for $10 less, but this one comes with a good heatsink and a mild factory overclock.

Total linked components, the more expensive options, plus monitor, including shipping: $1355. Obviously over budget, but already having a quality monitor, picking some of the cheaper options, breaking up the old computer and re-using parts, etc., should lower the total cost dramatically. GPU, CPU, Mobo, RAM, cheap cooler = $533. If you don't want to overclock, you can lower that further by eliminating the CPU cooler, getting a slightly cheaper i5-2500 (no K), and getting a cheap H61 or H67 mobo (H67 if you want connections for the fastest SSDs, H61 for pure budget).
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Ironman517, MisterFred, thanks a lot for great recommendations guys.

I found out that her PSU is Coolermaster Silent Pro M700. I think this should be enough for the new build? Not sure about the case... She cannot tell what brand/model it is. All I know it is black tongue.gif

Also, I think she has enough of HDD space for now, as in storage for data. 1TB + 2TB External.

Oh and I live in europe, so no microcenter near,
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Ironman517, MisterFred, thanks a lot for great recommendations guys.
I found out that her PSU is Coolermaster Silent Pro M700. I think this should be enough for the new build? Not sure about the case... She cannot tell what brand/model it is. All I know it is black tongue.gif
Also, I think she has enough of HDD space for now, as in storage for data. 1TB + 2TB External.
Oh and I live in europe, so no microcenter near,

CM silent series are supposed to be really good, I don't know for certain without research, but I think I remember them being pretty good.

What site(s) are you using for buying your hardware then?
since newegg is out of the question too tongue.gif
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Generally the same components should be a good deal in Europe as well, though the pricing may vary somewhat & taxes will increase the total (the US STILL doesn't charge sales tax on internet transactions... it'll come eventually though). hardwareversand.de and various nation-specific websites are popular sources for parts, I dunno which one will be best for you. As for CPU cooler, the HR-02 Macho should be cheaper in Europe, and is pretty much the best budget cooler over there, so you should probably eliminate the other options for that particular component. And sounds like you're set for power supply and HDD too. As for cases, it sounds like you can re-use the old one, but don't consider the haf 912 in europe, it's overpriced. The Merc Alpha (or beta) should be available though.

Edit: Double-checked, that's a high quality power supply which should be overkill for even a 2-GPU system.
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imo an ssd should be low priority until you (or gf in this case) are satisfied with the gaming performance of the PC. But with SSD prices so cheap, a small 64GB one isn't a terrible idea.

There's no reason not to include a SSD in a 1000-1300$ build. For playing WoW an SSD will make a big difference in loading screens between areas and overall everywhere else.

I mean 128gb for 160$ is perfectly reasonable and shouldn't push it over budget unless your going way overboard on something.
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There's no reason not to include a SSD in a 1000-1300$ build. For playing WoW an SSD will make a big difference in loading screens between areas and overall everywhere else.
I mean 128gb for 160$ is perfectly reasonable and shouldn't push it over budget unless your going way overboard on something.

There's many reasons why not to. Load times for WOW just isn't a priority for everyone. $160 is a lot of money to some people. $1300 is £800... Over here for £800 I wouldn't even think of putting an SSD into a machine. A good GPU will run £180 (GTX 560ti, for example), CPU and board will be around £350-400... that's over half the budget already. It's just not an expense many people see the point in. As I mentioned earlier, I've seen my two housemates playing on 7200RPM drives and the load times for players, mobs and new areas is just fine. seconds, if that. I wouldn't really see the point at all unless it was an extra. It'd be the kind of thing I'd buy 6 months down the line.

But yeah if the OP{ can justify it to his GF then he should definately go for it because it'll be a great addition, but if he has to scrimp out on other parts to fit it into the system then it's a no-no. Then of course there's the firmwares to consider and the special dispensations you need to give when using an SSD (not exactly a big deal, but it can be)
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She will play more games, than just WoW, including new games. Also, she wants to have this pc kind of 'future proof', to be able to last atleast another 2-3 years. She currently has i7 860, 4GB RAM, ATI 5800, 700w PSU, not sure which mobo. (basicly leftovers from her's uncle's pc lol)
Also forgot to mentoin, Windows 7 also has to be included in the budget.
@adamkatt: Which mobo for 2500k?


those parts arent to bad i7 860 is ok for most games just get an awesome gpu, an ssd and maybe a better psu if your new gpu needs it. also you could get a better cooler over clock that chip, it'd beat my rig, i would thin if you did all this or at least be on par i cant see an i7 860 bottle necking say a GTX 570 for example.... make sure you get more than 1 Gb of vram it will help trust me.

just to let you know my main rig plays crysis 2 dx11 and high res on ultra so you should be fine with just what ive said.
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i7 3770K, @ 4.5 delidded liquid ultra GA-Z77_MX-D3H GTX 1070FE 8Gb Corsair Vengance LP 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
intel 330 ssd  WD Caviar black 1Tb WD 2.5 500Gb scorpio black XSPC Raystorm CPU  
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
240mm xspc rad D5 Vario PMP-450 windows 10 PRO Dell u2713hm 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
CM Quickfire Storm Seasonic G series 650W Parvum S2.0 CM sentinel II 
Mouse PadAudio
Strike x desk pad Seinhiser HD 435 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 2600 Asrock H61m-itx Galaxy 750ti slim OC kingston 2x4gb low profile 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
SP 256Gb SSD  western digital black caviar 2Tb Noctua NH-L9i Windows 7 PRO x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
samsung FHD 48 inch logitech wireless with trackpad seasonic G series 650W gold plus UMX-1 plus 
MouseAudio
xbox 360 wireless pioneer reciever + 5.1 surround 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3770K, @ 4.5 delidded liquid ultra GA-Z77_MX-D3H GTX 1070FE 8Gb Corsair Vengance LP 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
intel 330 ssd  WD Caviar black 1Tb WD 2.5 500Gb scorpio black XSPC Raystorm CPU  
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
240mm xspc rad D5 Vario PMP-450 windows 10 PRO Dell u2713hm 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
CM Quickfire Storm Seasonic G series 650W Parvum S2.0 CM sentinel II 
Mouse PadAudio
Strike x desk pad Seinhiser HD 435 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 2600 Asrock H61m-itx Galaxy 750ti slim OC kingston 2x4gb low profile 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
SP 256Gb SSD  western digital black caviar 2Tb Noctua NH-L9i Windows 7 PRO x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
samsung FHD 48 inch logitech wireless with trackpad seasonic G series 650W gold plus UMX-1 plus 
MouseAudio
xbox 360 wireless pioneer reciever + 5.1 surround 
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