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Just got an FX-6200!

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My first modern AMD build (last one was an AM2 chip - plenty of multi-socket Intel experience at work!) and I'm pretty excited. This is going to be a workstation for coding (no gaming) so I have some old gfx card in here (X800 XL - from when I gamed many moons ago), so don't laugh too hard at that! ;-)

Anyways, important specs:
CPU: FX-6200 (FD6200FRW6KGU / FA 1204PGT / 9a10862B20381)
Mobo: M5A99X-EVO
RAM: 16GB Patriot Sector 5 (planning 1600)
PSU: Corsair CX430
HDD: Pyro SE 120GB SSD

For the PSU, if I go with any extreme OCs then I'll replace this. I found out the hard way (after my mobo/chip was here) that I can't use my 650W Seasonic because it lacks an EPS connector (it only has one of the 4-pin 12v connectors). It runs but I'm afraid to do anything for fear of melting pins. So this Corsair is my only choice with what i have. However, with no gaming, I suspect that will be fine, especially since I have an SSD. Fortunately, I have my handy kill-a-watt so I can monitor how much juice this rig pulls on load.

Also, for now, I'm going to go with stock cooling. Note that the HSF that comes with the FX-6200 is a totally different one than what comes with the FX-6100. This appears MUCH heavier-duty. It's a copper core with copper pipes and aluminum fins. I'm not sure I would have OC'd (or at least overvolted) with the FX-6100's HSF but this one makes me much more comfortable. I'm sure I'll hit a temp ceiling before I hit my true OC ceiling. For now, this is okay. I'll upgrade this later once I get experience with the stock HSF and can see what it can do. That said, what temps should I limit my chip to on load? Keep in mind this is a 125W chip and not the 95W chip that the FX-6100 is, so I don't know if it has higher tolerances or not.

I plan to run Windows 8 or Windows 8 Server (for Hyper-V) once this is setup and stable. So hopefully some of the Bulldozer optimizations are complete in Windows 8. That said, does anybody know if this is true?

Wish me luck!!

UPDATES:
1. This build seems to pull between 70W (surfing) and 250W (full CPU load). So this 430W PSU should be plenty powerful! Keep in mind this is with a GPU from ~2005 so it could be MUCH better in that regard!
2. She purrs!
3. The Asus board's software OC attempts to OC the CPU to 4.4GHz with the RAM ~1584MHz. It's stable at those speeds, for as long as I can test it monitoring temps.
4. The stock HSF is inadequate for a modest OC to 4.4GHz. The cores hit 60c within ~45 seconds. HSF Pics!
5. At stock speeds (3.8/4.1), the stock HSF keeps the CPU ~52-54C so it's plenty good for that (this is in a room at ~72F with the case open).
6. The stock HSF is very quiet, even at full speed. There's a slight medium-high pitch but it's only audible with the case open.
Edited by Jaxidian - 3/12/12 at 9:33pm
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Luck must have been on my side! Flawless install, booted first time, speedy Win8 install, no BSoD (or anything like it - not exactly sure what Win8 does), and, well, it purrs very nicely! I even used my mobo's "quick overclock" functionality (something to do with "AI" - not sure what Asus calls it) and it seems like it OC's it to 4.4 via that method (bumped my memory down to ~1584 or so). I'm going to play with it like this while I set things up until I understand more how she runs, and what limits I should pay attention to.

Still don't know this - what max temp should I try to keep her at under load?
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Try to keep under 60'C if full load.
Do not use any software for overclock....
it's just gives you a lesson how it's can be done, but at the end never works in full potential.
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it's just gives you a lesson how it's can be done, but at the end never works in full potential.

Oh, I know this. It was just a shiny button to press until I'm done getting my OS setup, then I'll tweak it. Also, since it's stable, it gives me a reference point to work with. :-)
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Try to keep under 60'C if full load.

hmm, using OCCT, would that be the "CPU" or the individual cores? They show very different temps.
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hmm, using OCCT, would that be the "CPU" or the individual cores? They show very different temps.

Individual cores.
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Individual cores.

Thanks! This HSF is already showing it's inadequacy. With the software-supplied OC to 4.4, I hit 60C within ~45 seconds of loading it up.

Speaking of the HSF, here are some pics in case anybody cares! (I took that thermal crap off and put some AS5 on it)
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Thanks! This HSF is already showing it's inadequacy. With the software-supplied OC to 4.4, I hit 60C within ~45 seconds of loading it up.
Speaking of the HSF, here are some pics in case anybody cares! (I took that thermal crap off and put some AS5 on it)
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No matter how good it looks, a stock heat sink that is down draft style won't give you good temperatures.
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better than the standard amd cpu coolers but still pales in comparison to proper aftermarket cooling. at stock speeds just keeps it in the thermal envelope which was exactly what it was designed to do.

for windows 8 the scheduler optimizations are supposed to improve performance but im not sure if you have to turn them on or if its automatic.

also how are the temps on your graphics card? if its dumping a bunch of heat into the case might be worth looking into a cheap newer card like a 6450/6570 or 430 to help with power draw and temps.
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for windows 8 the scheduler optimizations are supposed to improve performance but im not sure if you have to turn them on or if its automatic.

also how are the temps on your graphics card? if its dumping a bunch of heat into the case might be worth looking into a cheap newer card like a 6450/6570 or 430 to help with power draw and temps.

I'll have to see what I can find out about the Windows 8 scheduler optimizations.

Case is open right now, so that's a non-factor.
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