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So what happened to being 3x faster than a 580, and blowing away a 7970 for 400 bucks???
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So what happened to being 3x faster than a 580, and blowing away a 7970 for 400 bucks???

Like they would ever price a more powerful card for less lol

This card is turning out to be hugely disappointing considering what we've been hearing about it for months but it will be very cheap to produce once the process matures. It'll make them alot of money priced at $550

Good news is 7970 owners don't need to feel bad for buying their cards so quick. Turns out it'll still be the best, or equal to the best there is. thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by Ankit07 View Post

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According to this graph..kepler is almost 3x powerful than fermi..rolleyes.gif
Its can be true that GTX 680 is par HD7970..but its not true that GTX680/HD7970 are about 30% powerful than GTX 580..smile.gif
But GTX680/HD7970 are around 3x powerful than GTX 580..wink.gif
Those benchmarks are wrong..thumb.gif

Read what is below tongue.gif
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If I remember right, this was supposed to be their mid-range card, but their flagship wasn't gonna make it out until Summer. From the looks of it, since this card matches the 7970, they re-arranged their upcoming lineup, and are most likely optimizing what was originally slated to be their flagship and will probably release it for next generation... Business-wise, it's a smart move because from the looks of it, they'll be making quite a bit on this card if it's as small as everyone says. Consumer-wise, yea we're getting the raw end of the deal because in the name of money we're getting less product than originally intended.
I say all that because 2 months ago, GK104 was designated the mid-range card wasn't it? And now it's the flagship and nothing else is mentioned.

That's precisely what is happening. There is no point in releasing something which completely smashes the 7970 now if they can sell a an inferior product for the same price. If AMD had a card that destroyed the 580 completely, Nvidia would have actually released their real flagship. Ofc, this is mainly rumour, but I remain thoroughly convinced that this re-named 680 was initially going to be the GTX 560Ti replacement ... but hey, why sell your card for $200 less if your opponent is selling something that performs similarly for much more?

or maybe, Nvidia just derped on the first iteration of kepler (rather unlikely given the time they've spent on this).

EIther AMD steps up their game and releases a beast of a card (too late now since the 7970 slot is taken, they will have to play with the 8xxx series for that) to force nvidia to respond, or, Nvidia actually prices this card much lower than the 79x0 and forces AMD to drop their prices and respond with a better product.

though GCN is still in its infacy, It looks like it is inferior to kepler's arch for now ... anyway, i'm just waiting for benches now ... and also, the real king of the hill in a few months. ..
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Guys dont worry. At least you get better drivers with this card.
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Too bad no visible heatpipes </3
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Marketing PR/lies/deception for preventing you from buying competition products.

It helps when you are late.
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LOL !!!
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Guys dont worry. At least you get better drivers with this card.
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That's precisely what is happening. There is no point in releasing something which completely smashes the 7970 now if they can sell a an inferior product for the same price. If AMD had a card that destroyed the 580 completely, Nvidia would have actually released their real flagship. Ofc, this is mainly rumour, but I remain thoroughly convinced that this re-named 680 was initially going to be the GTX 560Ti replacement ... but hey, why sell your card for $200 less if your opponent is selling something that performs similarly for much more?
or maybe, Nvidia just derped on the first iteration of kepler (rather unlikely given the time they've spent on this).
EIther AMD steps up their game and releases a beast of a card (too late now since the 7970 slot is taken, they will have to play with the 8xxx series for that) to force nvidia to respond, or, Nvidia actually prices this card much lower than the 79x0 and forces AMD to drop their prices and respond with a better product.
though GCN is still in its infacy, It looks like it is inferior to kepler's arch for now ... anyway, i'm just waiting for benches now ... and also, the real king of the hill in a few months. ..

Here is how I see it looks like:

Nvidia knows AMD can rivalize in price/performance. Thus, they are better just keeping the price high since, even if they could sell them cheaper the 28nm process has supply issues. So 1. they sell it cheaper, there will likely be no stock in both AMD and nvidia side
2. They keep the price high, demand is lower, they gain time to work on their flagship until 28nm becomes more available.

There is no point at this time to offer competitive prices. They would if they hadn't supply issues (speaking of AMD & Nvidia).

If you can't wait just grab used graphic card. GTX580 (3GB) will be good for at least 2 years (1080p // 1200p). You can get 6970 2Gb for around 250$. Until 28nm becomes more available, you will save money by waiting with your used card!
There is no real point of going for 28nm atm...
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New gpu iterations are so miniscule nowadays. 7900->8800gtx was groundbreaking. The difference in performance was immense. Now we get 10-30% bumps and are expected to pay the same prices as back when we were getting double.

Agreed. The solution to this problem is to skip 1 or 2 generations in between upgrades. This way you'll get 100% performance bumps when you upgrade. Yes it's unfortunate that GPU advancement has been slowing down a bit, but there is really nothing we can do about it other than to wait. If we continue paying $500+ for GPUs every generation they are released, then there is little incentive for GPU manufacturers to advance at any faster rate than what they currently are.
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the power connector farthest for the PCB looks very awkward. It will look even more awkward with a waterblock. I never thought the looks of a card would have such an impact on my purchase decision but I may skip this one.
    
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