Originally Posted by FtL1776
Sorry, I'm not up to date, but is the 1536 Shaders of course mean CUDA cores and is that correct, I know its supposed to be as fast as 3x 580 which 3x 512 CUDA cores in the 580 is 1536, but I also know the 6970 has 1536 shaders... Don't know if I'm stupid or they are.
What they did was removed hotclocks. So they are weaker but there are more of them to make up for it.
Originally Posted by drka0tic
They neutered this card. Completely disappointing.
For being 3 months late to the game I expected a monster of a card for this much cash.
Or they could have priced it like one if they did not have the raw hp.
Originally Posted by Yuki457
The CUDA count is correct but the performance is not. Due to the removal of hotclocks etc Kepler cores are significantly slower than Fermi cores.
If it had 1536 Fermi cores it would melt in that density.
Not if they ran the cards at a low frequency.
Originally Posted by Ankit07
ATI Radeon decreasing cores & nVidia increasing cores
i mean ATI is providing much performance/core than previous generation cards..but now nVidia is decreasing performance/core in newer generation cards..
I cant imagine if they take the efficency of the HD 7 series and returned the raw power of the HD 6 series for the HD 8 series.
Originally Posted by ColoursTCMZ
Yeah... I'll be probably doing the same, seeing as I just bought a 580 in September and don't have a whole lot of spare money to go by as of right now, I'll just save up for two of the best single cards of the optimized Kepler series for when they come out. BF3 looks just good enough on medium with effects on high, no AA, but 120 fps
I've grown to be a big frame rate lover since I got my 120Hz screen, but hell, I can't dish out all of my money on my computer hobby.
Also I doubt you will focus on the ground when you are in a fire fight.
Originally Posted by DaClownie
I'm not gonna lie, this is kinda like a swift kick in the junk. I've been ready to upgrade since the second week of February, but I've been waiting (albeit not so patiently) for Ivy Bridge to come out, and Kepler/GCN to release, so I could get the proper comparison and make the best choice for my new powerhouse rig. Ivy Bridge is 5% faster roughly, and supposedly is running hotter than a brazilian super model, and now Kepler is toned down and is on par with a 7970. How lackluster this build is turning :/
Although a bummer, just imagine if gaming wasnt held back by console ports.
Originally Posted by Killam0n
so basically what this means is the GTX 580 is also not moving down in price much.. that is quite disappointing.. WE ARE ALL BEING TROLLED BY AMD AND NVIDIA's PRICE FIXING.
Now I have to wait even longer to upgrade... I can NOT see any point in spending more than $300 (after tax) on a video card upgrade. I have my sights set on a 580 as my next video card upgrade.
I really cant see how they release flag ship cards at these insane price points. I remember back when I bought my 4870 512MB (currently viewing though it to type this) I bought it for about $320 ON RELEASE and it was the BEST Video card on the market period.
Its just sick to me to see consumer flag-ship cards at $600-700.. now for a "workstation" / FIREGL or Autocad "optimized" Card- Yea I get the $1000 price tags in that segment.. but for the average "tech enthusiast" or "PC gamer" I cant see how they justify these prices for video cards.Dear Nvidia and AMD
Please try to produce more cards and FASTER cards so that we can keep things moving along smoothly I understand currently your milking the hell out of your products (which is fine) but cards like the GTX 580 should be in the $300 price range by now, SERIOUSLY.
AMD isnt price fixing. The 7950 and 7970 is better than a 580 in every way and it costs equal or less.
Originally Posted by Klinkey
even if kepler was 15% faster, AMD still won. nVidia is like 3 months late hahah, and considering their "manufacturing troubles" it looks like it will be 4-5 months after the release of GCN when we finally get to see decent quantities of cards
They could have made a mark 2 version of the GTX580 like they did with the 560ti 448 while they worked on kepler.
Originally Posted by pr1m3val
I have a gtx580 in my pc, both of my sons have hd 4870 in their pcs. We all play at 1080. They can play everything out, I can just do it with more eye candy turned on. 4870 is far from junk.
Not junk, but very much outdated.
Originally Posted by Lost4468
How much better than a hd 6950 should this card perform?
It went from roughly 120% down to around 45% as we get closer to its release.
Originally Posted by Juliancahillane
Honestly the best thing to do is just simply not buy the 680 or 7970
they will be forced to release their new tech and then the prices of the - real midrange - "680 and 7970" will have to drop, meaning 580s will be an absolute steal
But again, the current games dont need anymore power
The point for the most expensive single gpu card is to be the fastest not the best in price to performance.
Originally Posted by theturbofd
Im still getting it IDC lol
The joke is on you.
Originally Posted by Scorpion667
the power connector farthest for the PCB looks very awkward. It will look even more awkward with a waterblock. I never thought the looks of a card would have such an impact on my purchase decision but I may skip this one.
Maybe its to make room for all of those extra cores.