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i7-2600k. Assuming you're overclocking - and you SHOULD be overclocking with your purposes, there's little to no advantage to getting the i7-2700k. The speed advantage of the 2700k will disappear once you overclock. The i7-3930k will be faster in video rendering... but not much faster... and it will provide NO additional benefit in gaming (Shogun 2: Total War is the only game that is programmed to utilize more than 4 cores). Considering you'll save, oh, roughly $500 ($300ish on processor, $200ish on mobo). Really, you can still do everything with an i5-2500k, but if you do seriously explore 3d rendering and that kind of stuff, the i7 will be worth the extra $100. P.S. The Ramage mobo will do next to nothing for you. You can get a standard overclock with a $105 board, a heavy overclock with a higher-end $140 board or something. You seem bizarrely dedicated to spending on expensive components assuming they'll perform better. Well, on things like a mobo they often offer extra perks like extra SATA 3 ports, but unless you're actually going to use those perks, it's worthless.

Additionally, your PSU is overkill (use Phaedrus' PSU calculator, check stickies in the Power Supplies forum), and there's generally no reason to get Windows Ultimate or Professional over Home Premium (find a comparison of the different features - you'll find like 2 things you'll never use). The Frio is nice, but it's old & loud. Get a Noctua D14 or Thermalright Silver Arrow or Archon. Or an HR-02 Macho. All of these are quieter than the Frio and should provide equal or superior cooling.

If you want a good overclocking mobo w/USB 3.0 headers to power the front of your case, consider something like this ASUS P8Z68-V LE:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131773

If you want a more expensive mobo consider this ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3. So is this one just a better mobo? Not really. The main difference is that it is built for a dual-GPU configuration if you want to do SLI or Crossfire (and you probably don't, unless you game on a resolution higher than 1920x1080):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131792

There are other options, Asrock is good and their models may be a bit cheaper, but the point is, the $300 mobos don't offer anything more than those two for your purposes. And then you can spend money on: software for the video rendering, a better webcam (logitech 920), nice mouse, keyboard, taking a girl out, etc.

Since you have tons of budget, the 7970 is a good choice, no argument there.

I don't see your case recommended much, but it looks fine. Pricey, but it's got 3.0 ports on the front and at that price level it's hard to pick a bad case. *shrug*

Edit: Just saw the i7-2700k is like $15 more than the 2600k right now... well whatever, no big deal there. Hope these random tidbits help.

Edit 2: Consider getting an SSD with your budget, preferablly a 128GB Samsung 830, or if its cheaper, a 128GB Crucial m4.

Edit 3: Jeebus. Did that many people really post in the time it took me to type? Hmmm.... nope, they didn't. I'm an idiot. biggrin.gif
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Ill just go ahead and say while the last 5 post were good... None of them read what was on page 9.

I might as well change the thread topic to:

Should I get a 3820 or a 2700k?
Lot's of people like the 3820 and X79 Sabertooth combo which is what I was planning on getting.

Basically I don't wanna type what I did like 5x already.

PLEASE READ MY LAST 2 RESPONSES ON PAGE 9 BEFORE YOU POST AGAIN! A LOT HAVE CHANGED! THEN ANSWER MY QUESTIONS!!!!

lol sorry I just already know I'm not getting the 3930k. Especially since I don't need and only 1 person in this entire thread said should should get it. That topic was long dead, can someone respond to current post and quote it so I know? Thanks!
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Additionally, your PSU is overkill (use Phaedrus' PSU calculator, check stickies in the Power Supplies forum), and there's generally no reason to get Windows Ultimate or Professional over Home Premium (find a comparison of the different features - you'll find like 2 things you'll never use). The Frio is nice, but it's old & loud. Get a Noctua D14 or Thermalright Silver Arrow or Archon. Or an HR-02 Macho. All of these are quieter than the Frio and should provide equal or superior cooling.

k used it and it said like 575w. So a 650w should be fine riiight?

Uncle got Windows Ultimate 3 disk set and never used a code for one of his computers. I'm not paying for it...

Sure ill look into another CPU cooler for the same price. Any recommendations? One that looks cool also please. The Noctua whatever I looked up looked all vanilla and tan, not aesthetically pleasing whatsoever. Especially since I'm never going to water cool my system and my case is a Thermaltake Chaser MK-I with all optional fans going to be added.
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Srry computer fail double post. Not trying to spam. Srryyyy!!

EDIT: Might as well add onto this then...
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You seem bizarrely dedicated to spending on expensive components assuming they'll perform better. Well, on things like a mobo they often offer extra perks like extra SATA 3 ports, but unless you're actually going to use those perks, it's worthless.

No. That's not true at all. I'm "Bizarrely dedicated" to spend the money necessary that I have saved from christmas, birthday, and upcoming graduation on a computer that will last me a long time and will meet my needs. The X79 has had great reviews and is a LGA 2011 so it would fit the 3820.
Edited by iDuskFang - 3/15/12 at 2:00pm
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maybe you should consider editing your first post, i cba to read through 9 pages for some fortune cookie advice tongue.gif

my opinion on 2700k vs 3820k is as follows: both are bad ideas, its a better investment to get a 2500k and spend the extra 100 bucks on something else like cooling - you still get a superior setup overall. If money is no object then at least spend it cost efficiently and get a 3930k because 2600k, 2700k and 3820 are imo just too expensive for little gain over 2500k

if the 2500k doesn't attract then i guess x79 is the longer lasting and more featured platform for trivial extra cost over a 2700k - your needs might change in the future and a 10 core IBE might just be right for them at some point
Edited by hazarada - 3/15/12 at 2:49pm
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^ on page 9 dude, not through 9.
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*****END THREAD*****
People aren't reading my questions and this thread exploded. Happy I made it to around 100 post sure but people are responding to the first post and not what I really want answered. I already decided upon the 3930k question and have other questions thus the thread topic is not relevant. I ENCOURAGE you to visit my other post I will create in the next few minutes entitled: "Game Design CPU"
Ill call it that 1. Cause I can't think of anything else lol and 2. That's my future career/college studies.

I have a lot more questions so please go there and people might actually read what I am asking currently and can better help me and or the community.

-Thank You!thumb.gif
post #98 of 111
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Originally Posted by iDuskFang View Post

Well I thought I was done posing on this thread but he brought up a interesting point.
Anyone care to comment?...
I want my CPU to last a while.
Doesn't the 3820 have 2more Mb of L3 Cache? <-- look at me thinking I know what that even means lol.
Is what he says true?
Does it not conserve energy when idle and continues to spit out power?
I mean heck I wasn't even going to OC it past maybe like 4.5Ghz cause I want it to last a long time, be fast, but also be stable. The whole "Buy IVY Bridge 6 core" thing I said was looking way into the future if somehow the 3820 OC'd cant' handle my future needs I can get just a new processor and not both New processor & mo-bo(hints "5 Year guarantee sabertooth X79" <-- I plan to test that theory. Which in that case if the new new CPU line comes out for 2011 board then Ill get that 6 core depending on how long I wait, doubt it though.
I guess it does conflict cause I still want a 2011 MO-BO and I can't really go down to 2700k on a 2011.
Also: Will Ivy Bridge 6 core run on LGA 2011? Just wondering? I figure yes.

yes it has 2MB of extra cache http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge
yes what he says is true, IIRC it will throttle down when idle to save power however you can disable this feature but the multiplier is max x43..
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The 3930K (as well as the 2600K etc) are multiplier unlimited
bad wording, no multiplier is unlimited..

yes, IB-E should run on the lga2011 platform but i must say its not 100% confirmed yet but i am confident it will smile.gif
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Originally Posted by 2thAche View Post

EIST is intel's power saving function. Cuts the speed of the proc as well as voltage while the CPU is idle. Much better for the CPU to idle at reduced speed/volts than full blast.
The 3820 has a limitation on raising its multiplier. You can get it to 4.0GHz, then you have to use the motherboard baseclock/straps (not going to explain). The 3930K (as well as the 2600K etc) are multilpier unlimited. All you have to do (essentially) is keep raising the multiplier to get over 4.0GHz. When you start messing with baseclock and straps, you lose the EIST function. Some people don't care, but I like to have power saving enabled to hopefully put less mileage on the CPU over time.
If you're wanting something that easy to OC and will have plenty of power to avoid needing upgrades for a long time, I still say 3930K if you have the dollars.

The 3930K is a great CPU, I just do not think it is as future proof as everyone says. The IB-E equivalent is going to be a lot more refined and use less power. I say 3820 and possible IB-E in the future.

To the OP, people on here like to bicker about what hardware is better even if nobody asked.
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