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post #1 of 18
3/13/12 at 9:29am
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made a post earlier in the wrong section because I thought it was a GFX issue but it turns out to most likely be a mobo issue.
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Was playing Skyrim for a couple hours then I closed that down and had nothing else running, come back from taking a shower and see that windows had recovered from an BSOD

Gave out error code 116 which with some research I found to pertain to GFX cards not getting enough voltage or an unstable OC.

The catch is with my motherboard being a lower end board and already having visible wear on some caps by the CPU I haven't been overclocking ANYTHING. My rig is currently running at stock everything and I still get this BSOD

The Caps are not bulging quite yet just discolored, I am trying to save up for a new Mobo but it isn't working too well with college...

Also when i started it today it did the whole long beep with two short ones signaling a bad gfx card, restarted it and it booted fine.

Going to reseat the cards and clean it out today after classes

Then after a suguesstion I downloaded voltage monitoring software and added this.
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EDIT: Well I am pretty sure my mobo is screwed.

-SNIP-

I am downloading another program now but yea... I think my mobo is toast


EDIT 2: yea something is off =/

-SNIP-


Well is it my mobo or is something else off?

Thank you for looking! thumb.gif


EDIT - after looking through my BIOS all voltages are fine which leaves me back at square one. What the heck caused this in the first place?
Edited by h0thead132 - 3/13/12 at 2:15pm
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post #2 of 18
3/13/12 at 10:35am
Maybe your mobo has something wrong inside, but IMHO it's not from those Hardware Monitor or SpeedFan readings that you can argue so.

The same (or very similar) oddly looking results you have on your mobo I have seen on several working ASUS, MSI, Abit, DFI, Gigabyte.
IMO/IME there's nothing really wrong with them: it's just an incompatibility between the mobo sensors and those softwares.

How do those voltages and temps look inside your BIOS?
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post #3 of 18
3/13/12 at 10:54am
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Maybe your mobo has something wrong inside, but IMHO it's not from those Hardware Monitor or SpeedFan readings that you can argue so.

The same (or very similar) oddly looking results you have on your mobo I have seen on several working ASUS, MSI, Abit, DFI, Gigabyte.
IMO/IME there's nothing really wrong with them: it's just an incompatibility between the mobo sensors and those softwares.

How do those voltages and temps look inside your BIOS?

I didn't even know you could check that via BIOS o_O

I'll have to check that when I get out of this class
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3/13/12 at 11:38am
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I didn't even know you could check that via BIOS o_O
I think you have to look for a BIOS section called "H/W Monitor": however, I don't think you'll get bad news from the BIOS, it's just to reassure you about those data.

Eventually take note that a "real" troubleshooting is a long and hard way for us, and no single piece of software can help you about. IMO/IME.
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post #5 of 18
3/13/12 at 1:23pm
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I didn't even know you could check that via BIOS o_O
I think you have to look for a BIOS section called "H/W Monitor": however, I don't think you'll get bad news from the BIOS, it's just to reassure you about those data.

Eventually take note that a "real" troubleshooting is a long and hard way for us, and no single piece of software can help you about. IMO/IME.

According to BIOS everything is fine but then this leads me to ask what caused that BSOD last night?
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3/13/12 at 1:32pm
i suspect it is your psu. 12v and 5v are reading kinda low.
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post #7 of 18
3/13/12 at 2:03pm
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i suspect it is your psu. 12v and 5v are reading kinda low.

The reported ones are quite false at all.
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post #8 of 18
3/13/12 at 2:13pm
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i suspect it is your psu. 12v and 5v are reading kinda low.

The reported ones are quite false at all.

Yea i am just going to edit out those pics to end any other confusion
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3/13/12 at 2:16pm
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what caused that BSOD last night?

It's difficult to answer. IMO/IME.

Summarizing, IME you should start troubleshooting with memtest, in order to test your ram.
You need to set the BIOS at stock values to do that (for both mobo and gpu).

After a couple of run for any single stick, you may start to test the CPU and mobo using Prime95 or similar synthetic load: I use to do so for 24hrs and however not less of 6hrs.
Then, I would give a run to FurMark for the graphics for 3-6hrs.

Eventually I would give at least a six hours running with Prime and FurMark together: I wouldn't use the OCCT PSU testing due to the false voltage readings.

If all should come fine, then I would set the BIOSes with your current overclocking values (if any), and in case repeat the same tests: if under these new circumstances any BSOD should occur, then your oc'ing isn't stable.
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post #10 of 18
3/19/12 at 5:29am
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Well this is a new development, did a ton of stress testing when I got back to the dorm last night and everything checked out perfectly.

Only thing I now notice is in Skyrim when I have all settings maxed (yes somehow this rig will do that) I get a lot of glitches when it comes to fog.

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Game itself runs perfectly but these little boxes that seem to be random colors (it is different depending on which map I am on this one just happens to be on Black Reach) just pop up all over the place whenever there is fog.

The thing is though if I turn AA off then the boxes go away?

Is this something with my Motherboard? Graphics? or Bethesda?

EDIT: figured I would also throw out there that all other games don't do this even in dense fog areas with AA maxed.
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