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Hello, a friend of mine asked me to build him a new Computer.
I got almoasteverything but i can't decide between 2 Mainboards.

The Build:

1000GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.14
Thermalright HR-02 Macho AMD und Intel
Intel Core i5 2500K 4x 3.30GHz So.1155 BOX
LiteOn iHAS124-19 SATA Schwarz Bulk
530W be quiet! Pure Power CM BQT L8-CM-
Fractal Define R3 USB3.0 Black Pearl Midi
Gainward GeForce GTX580 Phantom 1536 MB DDR5 PCIe

Now I have to chose between Asus Maximus IV GENE-Z/GEN3 + compatible ram and ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3 + compatible ram.
He plans to overclock his system.
He has no need for a SSD because he is to stupid for computers and he would save his temp files or his downloads on it xD. Since he got a very old pc atm this would be like 10 years in futur for him so i'm asking you to help me with my decision
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Asus for the motherboard and G. skill for the memory.
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Yeah i'm also a fan of the maximus board because here is a huge thread with support too and it doesn't look like that my friend will add some hardware in his pc
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the asus maximus is a different league there, for almost the same price, the asus p8z68 v/gen3 would be better comparison to asrock z68 e4g3, i think rolleyes.gif
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post #5 of 27
Quote:
Originally Posted by Papaace View Post

Hello, a friend of mine asked me to build him a new Computer.
I got almoasteverything but i can't decide between 2 Mainboards.


He has no need for a SSD because he is to stupid for computers and he would save his temp files or his downloads on it xD.

SSD caching is your answer to this. With Z68 mobos, you add a small SSD for speed and nothing will be saved to it. So, you don't have to worry about him filling the drive up, everything is still stored on the HDD. I just did this with a build recently and it worked great. Drop the Maximus mobo and get a moderately priced mobo (its all you need). Put the savings into a cheap SSD and you'll be far happier with what that gives you over a Maximus mobo.
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I wouldn't recommend that PSU with a GTX580. It's low wattage and doesn't look like it's 80+ certified.
    
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post #7 of 27
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Originally Posted by xnuw View Post

the asus maximus is a different league there, for almost the same price, the asus p8z68 v/gen3 would be better comparison to asrock z68 e4g3, i think rolleyes.gif

a different league , you mean higher or lower ?

J0zef : i have the same PSU and a gtx 570 and everything works great

http://www.be-quiet.net/be-quiet.net/index.php?StoryID=17&ProductID=249&websiteLang=en

it has 80+ Bronze certification
Edited by Papaace - 3/15/12 at 3:43pm
post #8 of 27
Asus Maximus IV GENE-Z/GEN3 definatly go with this IMO being a ROG board means it is build more solid, but being mATX it has less PCIe ports but has two that you would like xD..

as for a psu have look at these two
Rosewill HIVE Series HIVE-650 650W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182132
OCZ ZS Series 650W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341048
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post #9 of 27
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That friend of mine will never need sth else then standart components and he will not need more PCIe ports then there are.
He just want's a good PC for some years to play with it.
But i realy would like to know what xnuw meant^^

I had the asus p8z68 v/gen 3 before the Maximus. In those 10 days i had always random freezing in gaming, videos etc etc and i didn't know why.
So i'll never buy this mainboard again xD
Edited by Papaace - 3/15/12 at 4:13pm
post #10 of 27
I reviewed the ASRock P67 Ex4 and quite liked it for an average overclock. ASUS board will probably push harder though.

Agreed, you need a beefier PSU in that system. 3960X + Dual 580s pulls 650W during metro, so I'm glad I have 1000W Silver under it. PSUs are expensive, but you don't want them to whine after 6 months.
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