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Finally someone putting AT&T in their place. I'm just happy I'm grandfathered into Verizon's unlimited plan. Sucks that they constantly slow my data down to a crawl....

Same. Hopefully there will be some kind of reform in the US to stop this "unlimited data" BS. If it's unlimited, it should be unlimited.
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Same. Hopefully there will be some kind of reform in the US to stop this "unlimited data" BS. If it's unlimited, it should be unlimited.

Exactly. I don't see how AT&T and others can advertise it with the term "unlimited". To me, that's government letting them use deceptive terminology since their (current) "terms and conditions" contradict the meaning of "unlimited".

It would be like...if I sell you "unlimited refills" at my restaurant, you're allowed to sit there and sip or guzzle drinks all day long however you want from a glass...then I tell you "you have to drink through a straw and can't drink from the glass itself".

If a provider tells you that you get 6Mb/s down, 1.5Mb/s up...unlimited data...and they throttle you...to me, that is a breach of contract.

Unlimited is a definitive term that has a meaning of "without limit".
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Exactly. I don't see how AT&T and others can advertise it with the term "unlimited". To me, that's government letting them use deceptive terminology since their (current) "terms and conditions" contradict the meaning of "unlimited".
It would be like...if I sell you "unlimited refills" at my restaurant, you're allowed to sit there and sip or guzzle drinks all day long however you want from a glass...then I tell you "you have to drink through a straw and can't drink from the glass itself".
If a provider tells you that you get 6Mb/s down, 1.5Mb/s up...unlimited data...and they throttle you...to me, that is a breach of contract.
Unlimited is a definitive term that has a meaning of "without limit".

well, unfortunately, from a technical standpoint, "unlimited" could be defined as only meaning unlimited in quantity, not unlimited in speed. sure, we'll refill your glass as much as you want, you just have to drink through a straw. unlimited quantity of refills, but not unlimited consumption speed...or, another analogy: i rent you a car. i tell you you have unlimited use. then, halfway through a trip, the car slows down to 15mph and won't accelerate past that. while you can technically still go as far as you want, you can only do so at the decreased speed. unlimited in refill/distance/quantity, but limited in consumption/speed/data rates. i'm guessing att will be rewording its contracts to reflect this if they haven't already.

actually, i work at a cell store and print out multiple att contracts everyday. i could probably take a look and see.
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At&t's unlimited plan is like eating at a buffet that will only allow you small BB sized cubes of food at a time after your first plate of food
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Wow some of you guys are willing to pay crazy amounts for your phones! Over here I get 250 mins, unlimited texts, unlimited internet (no tethering) with no minimum terms for £10 biggrin.gif Admitedly I don't get a phone with it, but still...
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AT&T has 17 million users on the Unlimited Plan, if all of them were to sue in small claims court that would amount to $14.45 billion dollars.
 
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Wow some of you guys are willing to pay crazy amounts for your phones! Over here I get 250 mins, unlimited texts, unlimited internet (no tethering) with no minimum terms for £10 biggrin.gif Admitedly I don't get a phone with it, but still...

Yeah, this is where it pays for me to be antisocial. I have a Sony Ericsson Cybershot, a modest amount of minutes I can't be bothered to keep up with since I rarely ever call anyone, free calls on a family plan and no internet for 2000 yen a month(maybe $25 USD). It does what I need it to and nothing more(well that's not true... Japanese phones have lots of weird features).
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well, unfortunately, from a technical standpoint, "unlimited" could be defined as only meaning unlimited in quantity, not unlimited in speed. sure, we'll refill your glass as much as you want, you just have to drink through a straw. unlimited quantity of refills, but not unlimited consumption speed...or, another analogy: i rent you a car. i tell you you have unlimited use. then, halfway through a trip, the car slows down to 15mph and won't accelerate past that. while you can technically still go as far as you want, you can only do so at the decreased speed. unlimited in refill/distance/quantity, but limited in consumption/speed/data rates. i'm guessing att will be rewording its contracts to reflect this if they haven't already.
actually, i work at a cell store and print out multiple att contracts everyday. i could probably take a look and see.

Well, their current contracts aren't the same as the one I had in 2005-2006 when I had their DSL...same concept. Now, their DSL is capped. Plus, they all do something now they didn't used to do...that they got from the American banks: "we have the right to change the terms of this agreement at any time"

companies love that loophole
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Wow some of you guys are willing to pay crazy amounts for your phones! Over here I get 250 mins, unlimited texts, unlimited internet (no tethering) with no minimum terms for £10 biggrin.gif Admitedly I don't get a phone with it, but still...

I have a phone here in the USA...300 anytime mins...unlimited text, web, data, etc....$25 a month.

Of course, it's through Virgin Mobile USA...i.e.- a company run by a British guy who had to earn his way to the top.
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AT&T has 17 million users on the Unlimited Plan, if all of them were to sue in small claims court that would amount to $14.45 billion dollars.

That would seriously make me LOL hard if it succeeded. To see AT&T lose their butt.
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well, unfortunately, from a technical standpoint, "unlimited" could be defined as only meaning unlimited in quantity, not unlimited in speed. sure, we'll refill your glass as much as you want, you just have to drink through a straw. unlimited quantity of refills, but not unlimited consumption speed...or, another analogy: i rent you a car. i tell you you have unlimited use. then, halfway through a trip, the car slows down to 15mph and won't accelerate past that. while you can technically still go as far as you want, you can only do so at the decreased speed. unlimited in refill/distance/quantity, but limited in consumption/speed/data rates. i'm guessing att will be rewording its contracts to reflect this if they haven't already.
actually, i work at a cell store and print out multiple att contracts everyday. i could probably take a look and see.

unlimited 3g/4g would mean you get unlimited access to 3g/4g. the min they start throtteling you, its not unlimited. its as simple as that...
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unlimited 3g/4g would mean you get unlimited access to 3g/4g. the min they start throtteling you, its not unlimited. its as simple as that...

Not to mention...3G and 4G standards, according to groups like the ITU, have a stated throughput speed they are capable of. If they are cutting back the speed the 3G or 4G system is capable of delivering data to you, they are literally limiting your connection.
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