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Hey Everyone,

Need a little help selecting a pump, this is gonna be my first jump into watercooling besides my 920, my biggest dilema right now is selecting a pump, I'm going to be adding it to a already assembled machine in a RV02(sig rig) I was thinking of getting the magicool triple 180 to cool a OC'd 960t, CHV, dual 6870s and Im not 100% sure on the VRM/NB block for the board yet, if anyone has any suggestions on pumps Id greatly appreciate it as Im not super sure what I would need, I understand the differences in head pressures etc but am still struggling a little to determine which pump would be best, I think Im gonna do a internal res and pump as opposed to a bay mount res/pump combo unless someone can offer some solid advice, Id be more then happy to listen to any suggestions as this is totally new to me, if anyone has any opinions on the VRM/NB block as to how worthwhile it really is I'd appreciate that as well, budget isn't of super concern but I would like to keep the whole project in the 750$ area but I am flexible if theres some value there. Again this is the first one for me so any advice is worthwhile to me but the pump is probably my biggest concern right now as Im not sure which way to go. Thanks again guys!

-PS if anyone knows a manufacturer of a full cover block for a
XFX Double D HD-687A-ZDFC (its the dual fan one) I would love to know about it, I cant seem to find one or a confirmation of one that works other then speculation for that card and was planning to use universal blocks until I upgrade the cards in about a year

-Linear
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post #2 of 8
Almost any good brand pump would do for a simple loop like that, even with the full cover block I think any swiftech pump, or any laing ddc pump would be alright.

However, if you do end up getting a full cover block for your mobo, might want to look into the higher end ones with more head pressure (PSI or whatever tongue.gif)

There is a good guide on it from charliehorse here that shows the PSI of the different popular pumps and averages for what each component would take

http://www.overclock.net/t/1108918/what-can-my-pump-handle-a-guide

don't get scared from the first couple paragraphs, it gets very simplified towards the bottom wink.gif

however, a full cover block for nb/ mofesets is pretty much a novelty. It looks damn cool and it works better than stock cooling, but its definitely not necessary. It's pretty much if you have the money to sink into it, and how important aesthetics are to you.
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I have used a bunch of phobya pumps from frozencpu. They work great ive never had any problems with them and they are reasonably priced. I currently have the Phobya DC12-400 http://www.frozencpu.com/products/13692/ex-pmp-142/Phobya_DC12-400_12V_Water_Cooling_Pump_-_DC12-400.html

Its powering a 360mm rad a 200mm rad 3 gtx 580 water blocks a MIVE water block and a EK LTX supreme block. Still has great pressure. My only gripe with it is that the mounting hardware sucks but its not hard to be creative and figure something out. I have mine with a 1/4 male to male extension piece mounted directly underneath my res
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Should work XSPC Acrylic Dual 5.25" Bay Reservoir for Laing D5 about 130 for res/d5 pump combo works well least has for me so far.thumb.gif
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the D5 seems to be reliable and powerfull.
Also timetolivecustoms did a pretty extensive guide to watercooling in that case on youtube (i watched it last night) you should check it out
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Thanks for the guide link Nano, somehow I missed it that when I was browsing through them, you also mentioned what I was thinking was the case with the Mobo block, I'm overclocking obviously but I never see the mobo temps get very high at all so I figured it wasn't absolutely needed but I just wanted to make sure I wasnt missing anything.

Thats funny Dred I was looking at that pump because it seemed like a good price for what it claimed but I wasn't overly sure about reliability but if you've used a few of them and they hold up its something Ill take at face value because I tend to stick with what I know if its something reliable, Im assuming your the same person that has the review on the pump also, the mounting isn't a huge concern for me as I can fab something up to make it work out cleanly.

Xap and W4, I was honestly looking at that Bay Reservoir if I did go that route, I like the idea of a all in one setup to make things a little more refined, I guess what it boils down to is decided whether to use a bay or internal res.

Any opinions on the Rasa Gpu Blocks, from the reviews and things I've read they seem to reach a good middle ground on price/performance and the overall look is clean on them.
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Thanks for the guide link Nano, somehow I missed it that when I was browsing through them, you also mentioned what I was thinking was the case with the Mobo block, I'm overclocking obviously but I never see the mobo temps get very high at all so I figured it wasn't absolutely needed but I just wanted to make sure I wasnt missing anything.
Thats funny Dred I was looking at that pump because it seemed like a good price for what it claimed but I wasn't overly sure about reliability but if you've used a few of them and they hold up its something Ill take at face value because I tend to stick with what I know if its something reliable, Im assuming your the same person that has the review on the pump also, the mounting isn't a huge concern for me as I can fab something up to make it work out cleanly.
Xap and W4, I was honestly looking at that Bay Reservoir if I did go that route, I like the idea of a all in one setup to make things a little more refined, I guess what it boils down to is decided whether to use a bay or internal res.
Any opinions on the Rasa Gpu Blocks, from the reviews and things I've read they seem to reach a good middle ground on price/performance and the overall look is clean on them.

Linear id take a look at this thread few comments on the rasa gpu blocks(here).Not to mention if you go that route youll need ram sinks.I did come across this for a universal block/sinks(Swiftech MCW82 Universal GPU waterblock and Swiftech GPU Heatsink for ATI Radeon HD 6950 and HD 6870 Series Reference Design. According to the compatibility list the sink does fit your GPU.thumb.gif

As for the XSPC d5 bay res if your curious what it look like installed ill drop a few pics below.

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A bay RES will enhance the noise in your computer case. They are a neat and novel if space is an issue. The D5 is good for flow and speed in a very mild restriction loop. But, add more restrictions and it's the "Little Engine that Could Not". As for the DDC pumps, there are more retail and DIY mods out there to choose from. The DDC pumps come in 3-flavors. The Laing DDC-1T types, these are the MCP350. They operate at 57C under load. Add a performance top or place two in series, the flow is good and the head-pressure moves the fluid through some of the more restrictive loops. Next up, the DDC-3. This is the 18W pump that operates under load at 100C+. It's ideal to place a heat-sink at the bottom to keep it cooler. And the DDC-3.x MCP35X; this is like the D5 Vario for speed control, but more head pressure.

Low restrictive loops a D5/D5 Vario/MCP655 would do well. Sort of like a Porsche. Goes fast but can't haul much.

Medium restriction loop a DDC-1T MCP350 will perform. Good flow, good thermal load. Runs like a dually rig towing 5th wheel cargo trailer.

Strong restriction 2X DDC-1T MCP350. Good flow as two in series with a bay RES and still excellent thermal load. Can handle nearly 85% of the loops today with ease and room to grow. FedEx truck and delivers always on time.

Heavy restriction loop DDC-3 or DDC-3.X MCP355/35X. Works really well with multi-RADS, many blocks that are flow restrictive and many 90 degree bends in the loop. This is a seasoned OC'er and WCer with money as no object builder. Semi-Truck, good for the long haul and thousands of miles to travel.

Hope this sums it up overall.

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