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AT&T guy?
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You think this is a valid complaint? This is a complaint that entitles a person to a legally enforceable remedy? Am I understanding you correctly?

A refund for the price of his phone (if he paid cash, if it was a contract then it's pretty much tough luck, eh?) yeah, just to shut him up. I edited my post to reflect more accurately my position on this.



And yes, AT&T guy
Edited by Rubers - 3/13/12 at 8:54pm
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If someone sells something as one thing, and it turns out to be FALSE, then he should be suing. Why allow companies to lie to you? Not acceptable.


The remedy seems simply. Give back the phone, get back your money. Problem solved.
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Wow, so everyone is big on the $850 AT&T guy, but this guy with his valid complaint and it's a no no? You guys are confusing at times.
He has a point. Without Siri it's just an iPhone4. Though to be quite honest it's "beta" so anything goes and it's probably in the T&C.
If anything I hope it forces Apple to be slightly more forthright about these things.
There's also the data charges complaint which is fairly valid if you have to have it request data for the same question several times before it actually gets it right. But that can be remedied by unlimited data plans.... something that's shocking we don't already have in this day and age.

4S has significantly different hardware than the 4 (albeit not really utilized or taken advantage of).

If everyone who wasn't happy with something on some fluffy wishy-washy level sued company X over it, we'd all be screwed.

Advertisements are one thing, real-life usage is another. Besides, every ad for Siri contained disclaimers. Siri works, maybe not to the extent that the customer expects. Deal with it--nothing works perfectly. Besides, it's still in beta.
    
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The AT&T Data Throttling Guy and this guy have two VERY different complaints.

Read Mr. Fazio's complaint. It's averring basically nothing. He's resting on his complaint. He alleges nothing other than the fact that it's "misleading." Ask yourself: what exactly did Apple promise, aver, or represent? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNsrl86inpo) Look at the Mr. Fazio's complaint: what does it aver, specifically, that Apple did incorrectly? It avers generally that Apple "misled." That is not enough to survive a 12(b)(6) Twombly/Iqbal motion.

This is a case that will almost certainly be dismissed as 12(b)(6) or settle for a nuisance value.

There's a difference with the AT&T data guy. When someone markets "unlimited" and you do not receive "unlimited," that is violating a promise that was represented to you. It's purely false advertising.
    
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"Siri may not be available in all languages or in all areas, and features may vary by area."

Right from Apple's website. If Frank does not live in an area covered by Siri, then of course it might not work 100%.

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Originally Posted by Rubers View Post

He has a point. Without Siri it's just an iPhone4.

Without the A5 CPU, SGX543 GPU, and various other things, then it's an iPhone 4.
Edited by ImmortalKenny - 3/13/12 at 9:05pm
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It's not Siri that's not as smart as advertised... lol
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Wow, so everyone is big on the $850 AT&T guy, but this guy with his valid complaint and it's a no no? You guys are confusing at times.
He has a point. Without Siri it's just an iPhone4. Though to be quite honest it's "beta" so anything goes and it's probably in the T&C.
If anything I hope it forces Apple to be slightly more forthright about these things.
There's also the data charges complaint which is fairly valid if you have to have it request data for the same question several times before it actually gets it right. But that can be remedied by unlimited data plans.... something that's shocking we don't already have in this day and age.
Without Siri, it's still a dual-core phone with a dual-core GPU and superb cameras, not even close to the iPhone 4. And it uses insignificant amounts of data.

EDIT: You know this is a troll case, because if it he was genuinely unhappy, he'd have tried to return the phone. And that he's trying to halt sales of the iPhone 4S. That's hilarious.
Edited by steelbom - 3/13/12 at 9:31pm
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Maybe I should sue McDonald's when I order a Big Mac, and they serve me something that doesn't remotely resembles pictured Big Mac on their menu. rolleyes.gifrolleyes.gif



j/k I'm too lazy to file frivolous lawsuits.
    
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Siri tells me "I'm really sorry but I can't answer that right now. Please try again later." I personally think it is a piece of trash. I have never been able to get it to do almost anything without it just saying it can't do it or asking me if I want to google it.

That being said, I don't think he should sue over it. I'm sure it's in the terms and conditions that siri can be a piece of crap and that it doesn't matter.
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About as lame as, "User sues Microsoft for security vulnerabilities" or "User sues McDonald's for hot coffee that burned tongue".
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