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How does it work?
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TEC + Thermal Electric Cooler
When DC voltage is applied through the element, a natural 'migration' of energy occurs, drawing heat TO one side {-}, and releasing it from the other {+}. The amount of voltage applied will provide the tempurature. A 300+Watt TEC can often reach temps around 5c.

*The TEC keeps the cpu ice cold, transferring the heat exchanged into the water system, which then gets 'radiated' out.-> you dig?
post #13 of 18
My only thought of this is, you can build it cheaper and get the same or similar results!

MY WC setup cost me about $150, a 430watt TEC is about $45, and then an additional psu, well i ahve one laying around from past builds, as does most poeple here

Total cost for a custom TEC system, about $200... Give or take say $50?
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post #14 of 18
Agreed...unfortunately, pre-manufactured works good for people like me who would like to waste their time playing with "it", rather than building "it". A new rig...case mod...water block...ok, but not custom mounting TEC's into water blocks..let alone testing them...yuk. I just want one that wurks already...bugs fixed. Thats worth extra $$ to me.
post #15 of 18
The kit is great for use if you don't have anything at all and you need a start. The downside is the peltier module used is the 226 Watt variety and will not cope with the heat generated by today's overclocked processors. I use that block and with the 226 Watter installed and powered accordingly with a very capable water cooling system load temps vary from around 11C to 35C depending on Vcroe used and also the processor used. I have since modded the block to suit the larger variety 437 Watt module and now load temps are below 0 degrees C also depending on how cold I want to go according to V used.

I will be interested to see how the 226 watt modules do cope with the C2D variety as they claim to run cooler but from what we have seen over the past little while- some run hot and some run cool. I am unsure if it is user error installing the cooler to the new chips but somebody needs to experiment with this.

The best way to do this kind of extreme cooling is not buy a kit and build as much as you can yourself. It will be much cheaper and will work more efficiently. You will also learn more this way
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post #16 of 18
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Originally Posted by TURN & BURN
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Just wanted to know if anyone has used this and just how it pairs up tp Vapor?

http://www.frozencpu.com/ex-wat-57.html?id=NF4Vjwiv
Expensive...!

The jury is out on the capabilities of a 226W peltier for the conroe..(someones needs to do this).

I run a 226W peltier being driven at +12V on a 3700+Sandiego with a clock speed of 2.80GHz on 1.5Vcore cooled by a very capable water setup, granted I run in some very high ambient temperatures with medium to high relative hummidity.

At 100% the CPU temperature normally ranges up to 31C but the core temperature will hit a high of 42C.

Some summations are that I still have only 12v being applied to a 15v device so my effective power rating of 226W is by no means being achieved (something I intend to resolve shortly).
Even with the increase in capacity I still feel that the 100% load temperatures will still in my case be high, I expect to see somewhere around 19 to 21 for the CPU and a core temprature unkown.

The 226w unit just does not have the capacity to cope with the CPU's and peltiers energy load and bring with it sub-zero temperatures.
This is something I was aware of at the onset of my little project but since my objective was to maintain a decent overclock with acceptable temperatures in my adverse enviromental conditions, I am pleased with the result. As I stated this will improve once the capacity of the peltier is raised by supplying it with closer to +15v.

As I am unaware of any 437W pre-configured setup's in the market place you look to be stuck with the DIY avenue...
As for comparing it with the performance of a phase change setup it is not in the race but they really run in seperate races anyway. A bit like comparing apples to oranges.


A cheaper 226W configured setup can be had and would be a nice thread on it's effective performance with the Conroe, even if sub-zero load temperatures are not a reality.
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post #17 of 18
Like they ^^^ said, you can build it for much cheaper, while achieving better temperatures. While I will admit modding a block to fit a 437w peltier would be a daunting task, if you're set on going TEC, it's pretty much inevitable unless you can get lucky and buy one.

That being said, depending on what you are trying to achieve, the 226w peltier may be all you need. A lot of A64's have the cold bug in one way or another... Tuchan has more experience in that regard, as I've only worked with 2 chips, and neither see any advancement in speed whether they're frozen or running normal temps.

I'd like to think that my TEC system is pretty much "optimum" (not trying to gloat, I was just lucky enough to grab an Arctic Web when they were still for sale). It's got a 437w Qmax peltier unit, a huge waterblock, a high-flow water pump, and a huge radiator with a ton of air flowing through it. The best temps I've been able to achieve is -25°C idle and -5°C or so full load (core temps). You would probably get lower temps with phase, but it's obviously much more expensive. I'm not sure if going any lower would have much of an effect on the speed, anyway.
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post #18 of 18
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I'm not sure if going any lower would have much of an effect on the speed, anyway.
Pretty much sums it up for me right there. Also, I would like to pelt both my gpu and cpu....this would be harsh on the pocketbook if I were to go phase.

*any one ever seen posts of a 'full pelt system'? cpu,gpu,nb?
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