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Poll Results: what will have the best possable performance for a pure folding server?

 
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    for a folding server, four 12 core AMD Opterons have the best possable performance
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    for a folding server, two 8 core Intel Xeons have the best possable performance
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Wouldn't it be cheaper if you got something like a 2600K and a load of GPUs (6+ if there are any motherboards that support 6 GPUs laugher.gif ) and folded with them?
    
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Wouldn't it be cheaper if you got something like a 2600K and a load of GPUs (6+ if there are any motherboards that support 6 GPUs laugher.gif ) and folded with them?

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Wouldn't it be cheaper if you got something like a 2600K and a load of GPUs (6+ if there are any motherboards that support 6 GPUs laugher.gif ) and folded with them?

I know of boards that have had 5 pci-e slots.

Folding is not limited to the a max of 4 cards.
 

 

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post #125 of 145
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Wouldn't it be cheaper if you got something like a 2600K and a load of GPUs (6+ if there are any motherboards that support 6 GPUs laugher.gif ) and folded with them?

Depending on the gpus it wouldn't be cheaper. It would also consume far a TON of power, and get very little ppd.
 
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Andrews, 2600k + mobo that supports lots of GPUs (say MIVE) is ~$550. Then say 3 560Tis used, $500. $1k, PPD: 140k.
Two of these, PPD 250-300k, $2k, power consumption:
2600k is 150W OCd
Each 560Ti is ~200W OCd
Total each rig is 750, for the two rigs is ~1.5kW.
Then 4x6174 rig for $2.5k, 300-500K PPD, power consumption is ~0.5kW (500W).
Estimates are very conservative.
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Wouldn't it be cheaper if you got something like a 2600K and a load of GPUs (6+ if there are any motherboards that support 6 GPUs laugher.gif ) and folded with them?

In sheer PPD, maybe, in PPD per dollar per day? No. GPUs output a ton of points, but they suck power down like it's going out of fashion.
A big multi-core multi socket CPU rig will also power through a metric ton of work, and use about the same power as a pair of 590s, maybe less.

For a big multi-chip solution, the only way is AMD, Intel puts so many restrictions on Xeons, and puts the price up so high, that the same dollar investment in Intel kit will get you a fraction of the CPU power you'd get from AMD. Yes, the Intel cores are massively better than the AMD ones, but when you get 3 or 4 times the cores for your money, that wipes out Intel's IPC advantage, and still leaves spare capacity on top.
It's like the difference between a ferrari and a half dozen pickups, I know which I'd spend the money on if it was hay bales I was wanting to move.

TL;DR: a 20% IPC advantage per core does not beat having more than twice the core count in folding.
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post #128 of 145
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Nope tongue.gif I genuinely don't know much about folding that is why I asked that tongue.gif
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Depending on the gpus it wouldn't be cheaper. It would also consume far a TON of power, and get very little ppd.

I was thinking GTX 580s/590s or AMD 7970s
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Andrews, 2600k + mobo that supports lots of GPUs (say MIVE) is ~$550. Then say 3 560Tis used, $500. $1k, PPD: 140k.
Two of these, PPD 250-300k, $2k, power consumption:
2600k is 150W OCd
Each 560Ti is ~200W OCd
Total each rig is 750, for the two rigs is ~1.5kW.
Then 4x6174 rig for $2.5k, 300-500K PPD, power consumption is ~0.5kW (500W).
Estimates are very conservative.

Yeah it does look like it wouldn't be better to do what I said tongue.gif
    
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Yeah like I said once you point out the numbers it's quite clear.
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GPUs are not going to produce the big points like a 4p rig, but it's also more than just points. Certain WUs are done solely on certain cores.

But yeah, 4p rig FTW if you are just looking for MASS points.
 
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