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Poll Results: what will have the best possable performance for a pure folding server?

 
  • 69% (49)
    for a folding server, four 12 core AMD Opterons have the best possable performance
  • 30% (22)
    for a folding server, two 8 core Intel Xeons have the best possable performance
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post #131 of 145
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Originally Posted by csm725 View Post

Andrews, 2600k + mobo that supports lots of GPUs (say MIVE) is ~$550. Then say 3 560Tis used, $500. $1k, PPD: 140k.
Two of these, PPD 250-300k, $2k, power consumption:
2600k is 150W OCd
Each 560Ti is ~200W OCd
Total each rig is 750, for the two rigs is ~1.5kW.
Then 4x6174 rig for $2.5k, 300-500K PPD, power consumption is ~0.5kW (500W).
Estimates are very conservative.

Also have to consider setting that 2600k up, might not even be able to get those high points if it can clock well and crack it.

Then you have to worry about cooling all of that.

The other nice thing about those g34 4p builds is that they run pretty damn cool.
 
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post #132 of 145
That too.
Also 2600ks won't be able to do bigadv which would reduce overall PPD by around 40k a rig or 80k for 2.
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post #133 of 145
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That too.
Also 2600ks won't be able to do bigadv which would reduce overall PPD by around 40k a rig or 80k for 2.

They keep shifting the requirements for bigadv to be just out of my reach lachen.gif How the heck many cores is it this week? I want to know how to get best PPD when I shift over from BOINC to F@H next Chimp...
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post #134 of 145
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They keep shifting the requirements for bigadv to be just out of my reach lachen.gif How the heck many cores is it this week? I want to know how to get best PPD when I shift over from BOINC to F@H next Chimp...


I think its 16.

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post #135 of 145
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Why? If amd has over three times the cores and 50% more threads, wouldnt sbe have to be %50better to match it? This is folding cores matter

Well... you forget the Xeons are Hyperthreaded, sooo... it's more like... 48 threads against 32 threads... wink.gif
     
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post #136 of 145
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Well... you forget the Xeons are Hyperthreaded, sooo... it's more like... 48 threads against 32 threads... wink.gif

HT cores still don't actually equal real cores. And folding usually keeps the pipelines very full, I know it's a different computational project, but my BOINC tasks take significantly longer to run on the HT cores of my 2600K as against the real cores.
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Ok thanks for the imput. Ive just spent like half an hour reading the last 5pages that built up overnight. My friend has dicided to build a 64 core bd server and the parts are on the way. I really like te benchmarks, they do not lie (thou thy can be cerrypicked) and in the end the cost ruled out any intel rig. I was happy o see amds bulldozers arnt failures after all, even if only in the server market. We have gone for the 2.1ghz, $550 16core bulldozer. Agian thanks all (that werent fanboys) leaving this thread now so any other questions pm me.
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post #139 of 145
Make sure you have him fold on OCN...lol.

Also, I wouldn't stop reading, I would definitely suggest searching and reading as much as you can. The 4p rigs are easy to build and setup but to maximize the ppd isn't intuitive necessarily.
 
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post #140 of 145
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'watts' is a messure of electricity correct me if im wrough
Im going to see if i can change amd option in my poll to 'four 16 core'
Not my money, but its about $3500-$4000 (easyly fiting 64cores)
I am horrafied at the mispriceing of server procs. The 2.4ghz 16 costs $500 but the 3.1ghz one cost $1200!?! Intels 1567/1366/2011 procs have always been off the deep end of overcharging (the 3930k/980x and 3820/920 are the only different cases) but wow! Does anyone ever buy the 3.1ghz opterons? Probably only dell and hp

TDP is expressed in Watts, you are correct about that, but Watts are not strictly a measure of electricity. It is the rate at which work is done, Joules/second. When talking about TDP, which is Thermal Design Power, it means how much heat it puts out (rate), or more specifically how much cooling is needed.

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