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Poll Results: what will have the best possable performance for a pure folding server?

 
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    for a folding server, four 12 core AMD Opterons have the best possable performance
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    for a folding server, two 8 core Intel Xeons have the best possable performance
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3/15/12 at 11:04pm
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You'd be massively incorrect then. The only Xeon builds that can beat a 4p Opteron 6174 are the 8p Xeon builds that cost a FORTUNE.
Edit: I CANNOT believe there are STILL people voting for Intel lol.

hmm tell that to the cinebench benchmarks that have the 2700K beating the 12 core opterons in rendering. if that translates at all into folding, then the opterons just suck. The SNB Xeons are massively powerful, i dont think you know how powerful they are. in cinebench, two 12 core opterons take a 12 point score home, and my 990X gets 11.45. the processing power of these opterons SUCKS.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5553/the-xeon-e52600-dual-sandybridge-for-servers/6

Cores are not everything. There is a reason Intel charges a lot of money for the top grade Xeons. because they are top grade.

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hmm tell that to the cinebench benchmarks that have the 2700K beating the 12 core opterons in rendering. if that translates at all into folding, then the opterons just suck. The SNB Xeons are massively powerful, i dont think you know how powerful they are. in cinebench, two 12 core opterons take a 12 point score home, and my 990X gets 11.45. the processing power of these opterons SUCKS.

You should see the OCN cinebench thread that has AMD cpus in the top 3 spots... could be top 10+ if we got all the opteron folders to bench their rigs.... but they wont since they're too busy making more ppd than any Intel system under 50 grand is making....


Oh and the 4p in my sig that cost much less than your 990x rig... yea... 17+ points in cinebench.
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3/15/12 at 11:14pm
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You should see the OCN cinebench thread that has AMD cpus in the top 3 spots... could be top 10+ if we got all the opteron folders to bench their rigs.... but they wont since they're too busy making more ppd than any Intel system under 50 grand is making....
Oh and the 4p in my sig that cost much less than your 990x rig... yea... 17+ points in cinebench.

$500 for my ES 990X. what were you saying about much less? and good thing that folding is a waste of time and power.

You needed 4 CPUs to get 17 points in cinebench. by comparison, only two xeons were needed to match your 4 CPU score. Optys suck. thats all there is to it. oh and hey. 3960X gets 15-16 points at 4.6-4.7GHz.
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3/15/12 at 11:19pm
Some of you guys are delusional fanbois who need to get over the fact that more cores are not always better. I'm going to post a link to an Anandtech review of the Xeon 2690.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5553/the-xeon-e52600-dual-sandybridge-for-servers

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And if you want top performance, Intel is the only option. Case in point: a dual Xeon E5-2690 comes close to what a Quad Opteron 6276 can deliver, with the dual Xeon scoring 24.7 while the quad Opteron scores 26.4.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5553/the-xeon-e52600-dual-sandybridge-for-servers/10

The Opteron 6174 costs 1239.99 each

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819105272

Xeon 2690 costs $2039.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117261&Tpk=2690%20xeon

I know some of you aren't very good with logic or math - which is clear in many of your postings - so let me help. smile.gif

4*1239.99= $4959.96

2*2039.99=$4079.98

Keep in mind the Opteron system has 2 6174s (12 core 2.2 GHz). Scaling isn't 100%, but if it makes the fanboi inside warm, multiply the score by 2 and compare against the 2690. biggrin.gif If you feel the Opteron is still the best choice, I'll gladly recommend you to a doctor and also suggest that there are many other health facilities to choose from in addition to that.

Cheers, AMD Fanbois. biggrin.gif
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$500 for my ES 990X. what were you saying about much less? and good thing that folding is a waste of time and power.

Oh... if we're just talking about cpu cost... I paid $400 for all 4 thumb.gif

I know it must suck to find out that Intel gets absolutely decimated by AMD in something... but its true :[

Also it is very much your opinion that folding is a waste. But I watched my grandmother slowly forget who I was, who her son and daughter were, and who her husband was, and then slowly die from Alzheimers. I also know that atleast 2 more of my grandparents have Alzeheimers and there's a chance my parents will too. At the rate it's growing there's a pretty high chance you will as well. That is why I fold. That is why folding is important.
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Some of you guys are delusional fanbois who need to get over the fact that more cores are not always better. I'm going to post a link to an Anandtech review of the Xeon 2690.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5553/the-xeon-e52600-dual-sandybridge-for-servers
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/5553/the-xeon-e52600-dual-sandybridge-for-servers/10
The Opteron 6174 costs 1239.99 each
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819105272
Xeon 2690 costs $2039.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117261&Tpk=2690%20xeon
I know some of you aren't very good with logic or math - which is clear in many of your postings - so let me help. smile.gif
4*1239.99= $4959.96
2*2039.99=$4079.98
Keep in mind the Opteron system has 2 6174s (12 core 2.2 GHz). Scaling isn't 100%, but if it makes the fanboi inside warm, multiply the score by 2 and compare against the 2690. biggrin.gif If you feel the Opteron is still the best choice, I'll gladly recommend you to a doctor and also suggest that there are many other health facilities to choose from in addition to that.
Cheers, AMD Fanbois. biggrin.gif

A 4p 6174 can be build for 2500-3k. it scores a bit over 25 points in cinebench. That's at stock speeds. Opterons are overclockable... your e5 xeons are not. Also in servers number of cores and clock speeds are 100% irrelevant. The only thing that maters is performance at a certain cost.

Also sorry to pop your bubble but this thread is about folding. Opterons>Xeons for folding. Sorry "fanboi."
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yeah, because theyre so horrible, theyre only worth 100 dollars each.

No, AMD is better priced which is why the 300k-500k rigs, bought for <$2000, are so popular on OCN.
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and its really nice that you wanted to show off your lovely grandmother in your avatar. how sweet.

Insulting other members does not help arguments/debate in any way. If you have useful things to say, then say them. But trolling and insulting is not productive. Stop posting in this thread if you have nothing more to add.
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What I would do is build a SRX an buy 6 gtx590s an watercool them for single slot use an then you would have one crazy folding rig.

This setup will take a lot more money to buy, and a lot more electricity to power, and in the end will generate less PPD than a server setup.
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3/15/12 at 11:32pm
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A 4p 6174 can be build for 2500-3k. it scores a bit over 25 points in cinebench. That's at stock speeds. Opterons are overclockable... your e5 xeons are not. Also in servers number of cores and clock speeds are 100% irrelevant. The only thing that maters is performance at a certain cost.
Also sorry to pop your bubble but this thread is about folding. Opterons>Xeons for folding. Sorry "fanboi."

I'm sorry if English is not your primary language. I can attempt to use an online translator to the language you prefer if it enables you to read my posts better. I try to keep them informative to help better the community. I apologize if you struggle with reading my posts.

I just posted a link from Newegg saying the price of Opteron 6174 as $1239.99. Here is a link in case you missed it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819105272

You are comparing the cost of a brand new Xeon 2690 to the cost of a used Opteron 6174. That is not fair. I posted links to a review to back up my claims, and so far you have posted nothing except what you believe to be true. This is a community where we try to learn from facts, not from what people believe to be true. So please, post some actual benchmarks, as I did, and try to be more helpful so others have the chance to learn.

-Thanks, one-shot.
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3/15/12 at 11:33pm
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I'm sorry if English is not your primary language. I can attempt to use an online translator to the language you prefer if it enables you to read my posts better. I try to keep them informative to help better the community. I apologize if you struggle with reading my posts.
I just posted a link from Newegg saying the price of Opteron 6174 as $1239.99. Here is a link in case you missed it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819105272
You are comparing the cost of a brand new Xeon 2690 to the cost of a used Opteron 6174. That is not fair. I posted links to a review to back up my claims, and so far you have posted nothing except what you believe to be true. This is a community where we try to learn from facts, not from what people believe to be true. So please, post some actual benchmarks, as I did, and try to be more helpful so others have the chance to learn.
-Thanks, one-shot.

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i posted benchmarks. where are G3RG's benchmarks?
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