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I have a classmate who wants me to build him a gaming computer. his budget is around $2000, but $1500 would be a good goal. I want to future-proof it (relatively) and make it low maintenance.

heres the hardware I'm looking into.

i5 2500K-$220 (maybe an ivy bridge cpu?)
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070

Asus Maximus IV GeneZ/GEN3-$197 (maybe a z77 with ib?)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153

Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB x2 for raid 0-$294
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284

Rosewill Challenger Mid Tower Case-$55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153

H100-$110
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=581556&CatId=499
maybe a silver arrow or NH-D14? (how do they compare, noise-cooling?)

Antec EA-750 PSU-$70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371051

Samsung DDR3 1600-$48
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147096

NZXT Sentry Fan Controller-$25

Yate Loonx4-$44

Total Cost: $1523 (includes 7950)

I still need:
GPU-7950 or 7970

I'll be doing all of the overclocking. He's very teachable about computers, so the remaining maintenance and features shouldnt be an issue.
Edited by phillyd - 3/15/12 at 8:21am
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Lets follow the list order in your original post

1.) You don't need a 2600K for gaming; i5 2550k or 2500k should be plenty. I'm guessing your friend doesn't do hardcore video rendering either so the extra 4 threads from 2600k isn't very helpful. Might also consider waiting for Ivy (1 month). Z77s come with native USB3 and Virtu MVP, which could be interesting judging on current results.

1a.) The mobo could be z77 soon tongue.gif (compatible with SB)

2.) The agility uses Async nand, and a sandforce controller. If you really want headache free operation, I'd suggest a Crucial M4, Corsair Performance Pro, Samsung 830 or Plextor M3. The intel drives are a bit expensive (5 series) but they're good choices too.

3.) I would go either 2TB or 1TB. 2TB will give you larger platters, i.e. Seagate XT ones, or Caviar Blacks. As a side note, my Caviar Blacks have turned out to be... really loud for some reason.

4.) Case is imo personal opinion. That one has good cable management though. Although... I don't believe it comes with all the available fans, so you might have to purchase one or two.

5.) H100 is loud; might look into getting a high end air cooler? Silver Arrow/D14. Phanteks is good if you like the aesthetics and don't mind the increased noise.

6.) 1866MHz doesn't really help for gaming. Just get the 1600mhz ones for much cheaper. Or get the samsung ones (30nm) and oc them biggrin.gif

7.) Single cards will be headache free. 7970 or 680 thats coming out on the 22nd (supposedly).

8.) For fan controllers, Lamptrons are popular, so are Scythe. And if you want some fancy touch screen glowy thing, the Aerocool one is plenty flamboyant.
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I have a classmate who wants me to build him a gaming computer. his budget is around $2000 I want to future-proof it and make it low maintenance.
heres the hardware I'm looking into.
i7 2600K-$305
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070
Asus Maximus IV Extreme Rev 3-$270
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131700
OCZ Agility 3 240GB-$268
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227727
Western Digital Caviar Black 1.5TB-$168
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136793
Cooler Master Haf X Full Tower-$180
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119225
H100-$110
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=581556&CatId=499
Corsair Vengeance 4x4GB 1866MHz DDR3-$130
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233236
Total Cost:$1431
I still need:
GPU
Fans/filters and a controller
Lighting?
A single 7970, or a 6990 would probably suit him best, to make for simple driver usage.
I'll be doing all of the overclocking. He's very teachable about computers, so the remaining maintenance and features shouldnt be an issue.
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Why not a 580? smile.gif
6990 is dualcore, combined with AMD's drivers and he's bound for trouble. IMO.

EDIT: Also yeah, 2500k all the way
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Wait for ivy, if he cant, grab a 2500K. 2600K is not necessary for gaming at all. wait for kepler too, the GTX 680 is supposed to be amazing. I don't know if I would trust that source, but it keeps your hopes up! smile.gif
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I say wait for kepler, then the 7970's will probably drop down to -$400 market. maybe $300 if kepler's power is true...
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why not get a 2600k for a $2000 budget? I truly want it to be future-proof (with the exception of the GPU, which i just want to be high-end.

ill look at the m4's
which samsung ram can be OC'd?
i had the h100 and with good fans it is pretty quiet, ill do push/pull. Any better cooling options than the NH-D14 or a Silver arrow?
how does the Havik 140 compare?

about sb, ill see if he would like to wait for it, if not, i may wait for the price drops.

ill go with a 7970 on this one then.
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why not get a 2600k for a $2000 budget? I truly want it to be future-proof (with the exception of the GPU, which i just want to be high-end.
*snip*
Because the 2500K and 2600K offer zero to minimal differences when gaming. Getting a 2600K will not make a build more future proof than a 2500K. The way technology is going, the 2500K/2600K might even be completely useless in 2 years, nobody really knows or can answer this question. He is better off just grabbing the 2500K, saving money or putting it towards a better GPU.

It also might be in his best interest to wait for Ivy as well. thumb.gif It is a faster architecture. Kepler is supposed to dominate all current GPU's but we will see what happens when that gets released. And it is releasing soon.

Buying a PC right now is actually a terrible idea. wait a few weeks tongue.gif
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i see that it may not make any sense now, but with 6+threaded games becoming more popular, performance is better with HT on there.
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i see that it may not make any sense now, but with 6+threaded games becoming more popular, performance is better with HT on there.

(Personal Opinion) I hardly see 6+ threaded games/applications becoming the norm any time soon, but then again I could be wrong. Looking at a software engineering perspective, you want your program to run on as many systems as possible. Most games right now are still optimized for dual cores. Most games are made so that they can run on laptops, and low endish systems, etc.. It will be more "future proof" to have a better architecture rather than more cores/threads.

I agree that the hyperthreading is a good idea to get, but IMO it is not worth gimping the GPU by ~$100. If you end up getting the 2600K make sure you show him how to to HT off. because right now, it isn't even needed.
Edited by Ironman517 - 3/14/12 at 8:28am
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here's a sim~build $2000, as per your wish, but drop down the mobo to lower asus tier, same with ram drop it 1600 8GB, as their is no real world performance difference using 1800 or 2100. for the case went with nzxt phantom,

cpu Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 ~ $325 free shipping

hsf CORSAIR H100 (CWCH100) Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler ~ $114 free shipping

pcb ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS ~ $180 free shipping

ram Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 Model 996995 ~ $50 free shipping

ssd Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR240GB 2.5" 240GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) ~ $239+$5=$244

hdd SAMSUNG EcoGreen F4 HD204UI 2TB/32MB SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive-Bare ~ $150

odd SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner 22X SATA Model SH-222BB/BEBE - OEM ~ $16 free shipping

gpu SAPPHIRE 11197-01-40G Radeon HD 7970 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card OC Version ~ $590+$9= $599 free shipping

psu NZXT HALE82 HALE82-750-M 750W 80+ BRONZE Certified Modular ~ $120+$6-$30MIR = $96 shipped

case NZXT Phantom 410 CA-PH410-B1 Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ~ $100 - $10 MIR = $90 free shipping

fan GELID Solutions FN-SX12-10 120mm Silent Case Fan ~ $9+$4= $13 x 2= $26 shipped

lit LOGISYS Computer CLK12BL2 12" DUAL COLD CATHODE KIT - OEM ~ $9+$4= $13

Total ~ $1,903 after rebate
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Intel Core i5 2500K AsRock Z68 Extreme 3 Gen 3 EVGA GTX 560 TI 448 Cores Classified Edition Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB (Dual) DDR3 1600... 
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Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD102UJ 1TB/16MB Mushkin Enhanced Chronos 120GB SSD Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARX 2TB/64MB LG GH22NS70 DVDRW SATA (Black) OEM 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Cooler Master Hyper 212+ Cooler Master SickleFlow 120mm Red LED Fan  Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1  Philips 32PFL 3605/98 LCD 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G11 Mushkin Enhanced Joule 800W 80+ Silver Cooler Master Elite RC-311 Razer DeathAdder 
Mouse PadAudio
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CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
AMD Phenom II X4 840  Gigabyte GA-880GM-UD2H  Kingston Value RAM DDR3 1333 (2x2GB)  Samsung Spinpoint 3 HD103SJ 1TB/32MB  
Optical DriveCoolingMonitorMonitor
Lite-On iHBS112-29 12X 3D Internal Blu-Ray Writer  3R System Iceage 120 Boss II  LG Series LH70 32" (32LH70YR) Full HD LCD TV Asus 18.5" VH197D LED  
KeyboardPowerCaseAudio
Genius Keyboard Spillproof  FSP Supersonic 550W  Aopen Nagas G3  Edifier Speaker Aurora 2.1 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Athlon x4 860K 3.7~4.0 Ghz 95W FM2+ Processor  Asus A68HM-PLUS Socket FM2+ Zotac ZT-90603-10M GTX 950 AMP ED. 2GB 128bit ... Mushkin Blackline 997164F 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 213... 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Patriot Torch LE 240GB SATA 3 2.5" Internal SSD Silverstone SS-AR06 Tek Low-Profile CPU Cooler ... Windows 8.1 Pro x64 Benq VW2235 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Team Wolf ZHUQUE Mechanical Gaming Keyboard 87 ... Corsair CS Series CS550M 550W Modular Power Sup... Jonsbo C2 ITX/uATX Case James Donkey112 2000dpi USB Wired Optical Gamin... 
Mouse PadAudio
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simple sandy
(19 items)
 
BaGnI
(12 items)
 
Snow Blood Kaveri
(14 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 2500K AsRock Z68 Extreme 3 Gen 3 EVGA GTX 560 TI 448 Cores Classified Edition Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB (Dual) DDR3 1600... 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD102UJ 1TB/16MB Mushkin Enhanced Chronos 120GB SSD Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARX 2TB/64MB LG GH22NS70 DVDRW SATA (Black) OEM 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Cooler Master Hyper 212+ Cooler Master SickleFlow 120mm Red LED Fan  Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1  Philips 32PFL 3605/98 LCD 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G11 Mushkin Enhanced Joule 800W 80+ Silver Cooler Master Elite RC-311 Razer DeathAdder 
Mouse PadAudio
Razer Goliathus Control DIGITUS 5.1 Surround Home Theater System - DA-1... 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
AMD Phenom II X4 840  Gigabyte GA-880GM-UD2H  Kingston Value RAM DDR3 1333 (2x2GB)  Samsung Spinpoint 3 HD103SJ 1TB/32MB  
Optical DriveCoolingMonitorMonitor
Lite-On iHBS112-29 12X 3D Internal Blu-Ray Writer  3R System Iceage 120 Boss II  LG Series LH70 32" (32LH70YR) Full HD LCD TV Asus 18.5" VH197D LED  
KeyboardPowerCaseAudio
Genius Keyboard Spillproof  FSP Supersonic 550W  Aopen Nagas G3  Edifier Speaker Aurora 2.1 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Athlon x4 860K 3.7~4.0 Ghz 95W FM2+ Processor  Asus A68HM-PLUS Socket FM2+ Zotac ZT-90603-10M GTX 950 AMP ED. 2GB 128bit ... Mushkin Blackline 997164F 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 213... 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Patriot Torch LE 240GB SATA 3 2.5" Internal SSD Silverstone SS-AR06 Tek Low-Profile CPU Cooler ... Windows 8.1 Pro x64 Benq VW2235 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Team Wolf ZHUQUE Mechanical Gaming Keyboard 87 ... Corsair CS Series CS550M 550W Modular Power Sup... Jonsbo C2 ITX/uATX Case James Donkey112 2000dpi USB Wired Optical Gamin... 
Mouse PadAudio
Perixx DX-3000M Gaming Aluminum Mousepad [Silver] Circle Attitude Multimedia Speaker 2.1 Wireless... 
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