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i see that it may not make any sense now, but with 6+threaded games becoming more popular, performance is better with HT on there.

imo, I hardly see 6 core becoming the norm any time soon, but then again I could be wrong. Looking at a software engineering perspective, you want your program to run on as many systems as possible. Most games right now are still optimized for dual cores. I agree that the hyperthreading is a good idea to get, but IMO it is not worth gimping the GPU by $100. If you end up getting the 2600K make sure you show him how to to HT off. because right now, it isn't even needed.

why turn it off?
there is an overall performance increase for multi-tasking with an i7. if a game takes up 4 threads, then windows and various other programs have to use some of it up too.
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why turn it off?
there is an overall performance increase for multi-tasking with an i7. if a game takes up 4 threads, then windows and various other programs have to use some of it up too.

right now, even with 2 high end gpu's your CPU will not be at 100% unless you are playing at 800x600. Turning it off will produce less heat and should allow you to overclock it higher without it. There has also have been cases where HT has reduced performance, because each thread is not the same as a dedicated core.

For gaming, It is better to use 4 powerful threads than 4 powerful threads split into 8 weaker ones.
Edited by Ironman517 - 3/14/12 at 8:53am
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^ reason is while gaming seldomly you computer will do anything else, that's why 2500K is preferred over 2600K, its either you do encoding, archiving, rendering or gaming all at the same time, then will your 2600K will be maximize at least including the hyper thread...
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BTW some benches show HT *hurting* framerate. So yeah, it's not only useless in games, sometimes it's even better not to have it.
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i'll go 2500k or wait for ivy
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i'll go 2500k or wait for ivy

Good choice, supposedly there is a 20% increase from Sandy to Ivy, but nobody knows that for certain. thumb.gif Release is scheduled for June.

Nvidia's Kepler is supposed to be amazing upgrade from all current cards and scheduled to released in April wink.gif
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Nvidia's Kepler is supposed to be amazing upgrade from all current cards and scheduled to released in April wink.gif

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post #19 of 30
No point waiting for ivy. Its really just a die shrink. Maybe %5 better max. And it will be more expensive when it comes out. Kepler? I wouldnt wait. Amds 28nm gpus are already out. So what if kepler is like %5 better? The 7970 is still going to maxing games out over 60fps for some time to come.
post #20 of 30
My vote goes to the 7970. Or two crossfired if you fit them in. Three would have the best performance avilable today
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