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That one top view pic reminded me F-Zero for some reason.
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That little bugger rolled so much because its center of gravity was too far forward, and soared outside the triangle in turns w/braking. If the powerplant had been behind the driver, it probably wouldn't have been a death sentence.

Perhaps, but that thing rolled going slow, just think about if a similar vehicle was doing 90+ mph around corners with what looks to be very little suspension travel. A lot of the force is going to get transferred to the front when cornering, but what do I know, I only have two wheels and thanks to the recession the race track shut down here....
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Guys this is Le Mans, and 24 freaking hours of it. You gotta understand the golden rule:

Time in the PITS refueling is WAAAY worse than making bad corners. If this car even uses 3/4 as much fuel then by time spent out on track after 24 hours, it will naturally win 1st place.
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Lets see how it performs before we jump to conclusions. Conventional wisdom back then said AWD cars would be too heavy and slow for off-road/rally. Then Audi started winning. wink.gif
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Guys this is Le Mans, and 24 freaking hours of it. You gotta understand the golden rule:
Time in the PITS refueling is WAAAY worse than making bad corners. If this car even uses 3/4 as much fuel then by time spent out on track after 24 hours, it will naturally win 1st place.

Yeah, it's funny how people are over-analyzing (or under-analyzing?) this. If you can preserve speed at the potential sacrifice of cornering (though all claims don't show it suffers in the corners) but make huge gains in fuel efficiency and minimize the number of stops, that gets you a huge advantage in a race like lemans.

I was skeptical when I saw the design, but after seeing some of the videos on it, I'm not too concerned. If the engine engineering proves to be durable enough to withstand 24 hours of constant racing, then I think it has a great potential to win.

And why are people comparing this to rally cars? This isn't for rally car racing anymore than an F-1 car is meant for rally-car racing.
    
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Perhaps, but that thing rolled going slow, just think about if a similar vehicle was doing 90+ mph around corners with what looks to be very little suspension travel. A lot of the force is going to get transferred to the front when cornering, but what do I know, I only have two wheels and thanks to the recession the race track shut down here....

This is not a 'similar' vehicle. You see how top heavy that blue... thing is? You see how NOT top heavy this design is? A lot of force gets transferred FOWARD, not automatically to the front when cornering. That thing rolled when going slow because it was poorly designed. The engine block in the front hung out too far away from that front wheel (and above it), making it unstable even when it was sitting still. It didn't roll over simply from having only 3 wheels. It's all about physics, and judging by the look of this, force distribution is not going to be a problem with the Delta Wing.
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Doesn't look like it corners all that great, always looks like he's going to lose it. They also only ran it on the flat sections of track, no elevation changes.



think it has something to do with the 2 front wheels being WAY TOO CLOSE to each other

and this is why I think this car can't do much on a windy track
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^^You'd probably die at the Ring in that thing, lol launch off the carousel.


I can see my friends in the CFD arena having a laugh. Wing shapes have not been very successful in motorsports.
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Guys this is Le Mans, and 24 freaking hours of it. You gotta understand the golden rule:
Time in the PITS refueling is WAAAY worse than making bad corners. If this car even uses 3/4 as much fuel then by time spent out on track after 24 hours, it will naturally win 1st place.

It depends how quick it is and how few pitstops it can make. If they hit their target of being in between LMP1 and LMP2 from laptimes they'll have to run those laps all the time in the race and pit a lot less than LMP1 cars to even stand a chance of being competitive. The main issue is if there is a safety car then you lose your big advantage over the other cars as they don't have to make green flag pitstops which is where you would normally gain all the time back. Last year the Audi's had to pit more often than the Peugeot's but they got the time back by doing quicker laps so I wouldn't try to do well in a race by pitting less, unless you would be pitting a significant amount of times less than everyone else.

Not saying it cant happen, its just a lot of things don't add up with this car. They've got nearly 1/4 of the contact patch on the front tyres that normal LMP's have, they've got less downforce and they've got a worse power to weight ratio. Yes they will get better fuel consumption (not sure of the fuel tank size yet) and they do have less drag but Le Mans still requires you to be quick through corners. If they ran without the chicanes on the Mulsanne then I could understand building a very low drag, low downforce car but they don't.

I'll be interested to see if they can pull something out of the bag at Le Mans, but at the moment it looks a long shot at best.
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The Audi's will crush this thing!
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