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If push came to shove those mines would be operating inside of a month. The IP is still there. And by push come to shove I don't mean these minerals to build our fancy shmancy desktops. But those that go inside advanced weapon systems. We'd get it done and to hell with the environment.

Unless you work in the mineral exploration or mining industries you don't know what you are talking about.
The IP I refer to is not only the metallurgical techniques but also the use of the material.
Neodymium magnet manufactures do not exist outside of china anymore and that is the key component that the military uses for their bombs.
That is only one of the technologies critical for the military.
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If push came to shove those mines would be operating inside of a month. The IP is still there. And by push come to shove I don't mean these minerals to build our fancy shmancy desktops. But those that go inside advanced weapon systems. We'd get it done and to hell with the environment.
Unless you work in the mineral exploration or mining industries you don't know what you are talking about.
The IP I refer to is not only the metallurgical techniques but also the use of the material.
Neodymium magnet manufactures do not exist outside of china anymore and that is the key component that the military uses for their bombs.
That is only one of the technologies critical for the military.

I understand that but IP goes out the window in wartime. It's espionage, sabotage and the like for those techs. I doubt it will come to that but if it did I garuntee we'd be doing it.


You're right though, I don't work in mineral exploration and if you do I'd be obliged if you could give me some more specifics on it. I would really like to learn if you're willing to explain!
 
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Ok what I mean by IP is we just don't have that knowledge anymore.
We have no records or any research.
All of it literally resides in China.

As to the mining operations, it takes time to hire the specialists from geology, metallurgy, managers and all the other people needed for mine operation, then you have to start on the exploration of the deposit all of which takes time.
Building the mill and other equipment can be rushed but you can only go so quickly on that.
Plus man hours involved can only be optimized so well.
It is just easier to stock pile than to rush the building of a mine.
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Ok what I mean by IP is we just don't have that knowledge anymore.
We have no records or any research.
All of it literally resides in China.
As to the mining operations, it takes time to hire the specialists from geology, metallurgy, managers and all the other people needed for mine operation, then you have to start on the exploration of the deposit all of which takes time.
Building the mill and other equipment can be rushed but you can only go so quickly on that.
Plus man hours involved can only be optimized so well.
It is just easier to stock pile than to rush the building of a mine.

One thing I hadn't actually considered was the geologists and metallurgists that would be needed for an operation.


I think the records and research could be found but you're right training people to do those high skilled jobs would be a serious issue. Thanks for the explanation. +rep
 
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We hoard materials that they cant get too so i don't see the difference. Anything that we really need we can get when it comes to the military.
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WHY AREN'T THESE COMMIES SHARING!? /sarcasm lol
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China is preparing for war, they need a massive population decrease, it would hurt them little to lose 20 million troops... lol...

/off topic joke...

I don't think China is playing by the rules like ALL of the other nations, including the world economic leading countries....

If they don't want to play by the rules then they will get sanctioned, we will see how long it takes X million starving Chinese Citizens to begin to riot...

Looking back at 2011, I'm sure it won't take long, lol!
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