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http://www.tomsguide.com/us/RIAA-copyright-cops-Anonymous-Time-Warner-Comcast,news-14459.html
after a few notices for downloading pirated software/media, your ISP may throttle your network speeds.

so much room for abuse...
... and someone has his hands greased well to vote for something as stupid as this...
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I used 959gb in January and 456gb in feb. I have comcast and didn't download anything illegal during these times. Just a whole lot of netflix and steam lol.
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I used 959gb in January and 456gb in feb. I have comcast and didn't download anything illegal during these times. Just a whole lot of netflix and steam lol.

That is a lot of movies/games laugher.gif
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GOOD!

This was the FIRST thing I thought of! It's ingenious! It's not infringing upon any right granted to the masses primarily because if someone is planning on breaking the copyright laws and steal something, then you're under the jurisdiction of the government.

It's very similar to the case about a year ago when some place in California, I think it was like some store or something, angered a bunch of customers and then those customers got angry when the ISPs and Cell Phone Providers cut their service. The service was cut because they were texting to others in mass to try to start a riot, but they all claimed it was blocking their right to freedom of speech.

As my dad commented on that particular subject:

"It's like if you go to the store and buy a bunch of tools, wrenches, saws, hammers, etc, and use them just as they were intended. Nothing goes wrong. But the moment you try to use those as a 'weapon' or for some kind of destructive use toward others that might be fear-inducing or cause harm to another, then the government steps in and takes it away. You can't complain about that."

EDIT:

However... For those who use Comcast Business Class or those who have the ultra Verizom FiOS Service (the insane 150/35 choice), this could get a little iffy. Yet, most of the time and from my experiences in the USAF, most of the people who use the standard internet connections, the smaller companies that have an insane limit per month (1TB+ like I had back in idaho), that use DSL with maybe a 7MB connection are the ones who pirated the most. So I can see how this MIIIGHT be a bit problematic, but it's for a better cause.

As they say: "You might wobble as you take your first step, but by the time you take your second you see how things should go."
Edited by Imglidinhere - 3/18/12 at 12:08pm
     
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It's ingenious! It's not infringing upon any right granted to the masses primarily because if someone is planning on breaking the copyright laws and steal something, then you're under the jurisdiction of the government.

Except it is infringing on people's rights. All they are looking at is how much data you download (not knowing if it's legal or illegal). Then they compare it to some arbitrary number that they picked and if you are higher than that number you're a pirate. Honestly it only hurts those that download a lot of stuff legally because I am sure that pirates will find away around their internet getting throttled. It's hard to imagine something like this wasn't intended to allow the isps to throttle anyone's connection so that they can provide less of a service and get paid the same for it.

In the case of the ISPs and cell providers cutting off service, it'd be like the store angered customers and those customers wanted to boycott the store so they started texting people to get them to boycott the store. The isps and the cell providers get wind of this and cut their service to stop them from boycotting the store.To put it in the terms of the quote from your dad, a contractor goes into a hardware store and buys a bunch of tools. Because there were 11 hammers in the cart the store suspects that he is going to hurt someone, so they charge him for 11 hammers but only give him 1 to limit the damage he can do. All that really happened is the contractor just got charged for 11 hammers, only got one, and now can't complete his job as easily because he is limited.

Honestly anyone that agrees with this move is either getting paid by the isps or doesn't get that the isps can't really tell who is downloading legally and illegally, either way agreeing with it and letting it happen only hurts those that follow the rules.
Edited by FateousMaximous - 3/18/12 at 8:12pm
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GOOD!
This was the FIRST thing I thought of! It's ingenious! It's not infringing upon any right granted to the masses primarily because if someone is planning on breaking the copyright laws and steal something, then you're under the jurisdiction of the government.

Well actually it is infringing upon their rights.

Imagine this, you were out one day when suddenly a riot broke out and you were just in the wrong place and had nothing to do with it. You then got arrested and you were held in custody because you were suspected to be involved in the riot. They won't release you because they have to question hundreds of other people first, which means you would be in police custody for a few weeks.

I know it's not quite the same as getting your internet throttled but it is still similar.
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That is a lot of movies/games laugher.gif

No cable. We just use netflix for 99% of what we watch. Might be going to get basic next month with faster internet for 20.00 more a month.
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How is monitoring a customers internet traffic not an illegal search like a phone tap is? Warrants should be required for this kind of invasion of privacy...
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No cable. We just use netflix for 99% of what we watch. Might be going to get basic next month with faster internet for 20.00 more a month.

We have Cox here and they just started enforcing their 250gb a month plan on their second highest tier which is what we have. On average, we have been using around 170gb a month, and that's just from Netflix, WoW, Youtube, Steam, and your average sites like Reddit. We don't even watch that much stuff off of Netflix either. Maybe five - six episodes / movies a week.
Edited by konoii - 3/20/12 at 2:28pm
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Originally Posted by Imglidinhere View Post

GOOD!
This was the FIRST thing I thought of! It's ingenious! It's not infringing upon any right granted to the masses primarily because if someone is planning on breaking the copyright laws and steal something, then you're under the jurisdiction of the government.

They have utterly no way of knowing if you are violating any laws unless they themselves violate your lawful rights.

Unless they do this, they must throttle based on raw bandwidth usage, which means that the majority of those being throttled aren't doing anything more illegal than any of those who don't use enough bandwidth to be throttled.

No method of identifying infringers is foolproof, or even particularly good.
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