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this is the only problem the ipad have for meh. But it's important to me...

And what is DRM? and what is the problem with mkv and drm?
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Originally Posted by RedStapler View Post

Apple doesn't support MKV's because MKV's don't support DRM.
Also, just for the record, this is the stupidest effing conversation I've ever heard about the iPad. I can't believe all this trolling is still going on here, but hey, whatever keeps the OCN community alive. thumb.gif
That's a good point, but that would only be a problem for Apple if they sold movies in that format -- why not support existing users MKV content?
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this is the only problem the ipad have for meh. But it's important to me...
And what is DRM? and what is the problem with mkv and drm?
DRM is Digital Rights Management, and apparently MKV doesn't support DRM.
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mkv is like a folder for media files. as AVI. And the mkv may have some feature like subtitle, some language and stuff. as a menu.

But we can extract the avi file from that and as every converter can convert AVI to anything. It would work if i convert mkv to extract the AVI. the make it an H.260 or MPEG-4?

If it does, i'm going tomorow to apple store... i promise =D
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The iPad doesn't even support AVI. There's practically 0 chance it will support MKV.

Now if 3rd party apps can do MKV support with hardware acceleration, that would be good enough. As it is, the few apps I've tried all use CPU decode which is very slow and uses up the battery too quickly. Is an API for hardware video decode acceleration for iOS not available? The elemental streams in a lot of MKVs are usually the same as used in MP4 (H.264 video, AAC audio) and tend to be compliant with Apple's supported profiles so I don't see why 3rd party apps for iOS would use software decoding for MKV unless Apple doesn't allow them access to hardware video decode acceleration.
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Originally Posted by Billy_5110 View Post

mkv is like a folder for media files. as AVI. And the mkv may have some feature like subtitle, some language and stuff. as a menu.
But we can extract the avi file from that and as every converter can convert AVI to anything. It would work if i convert mkv to extract the AVI. the make it an H.260 or MPEG-4?
If it does, i'm going tomorow to apple store... i promise =D

MKV, MP4 and AVI are all containers. MPEG-4 AVC/H.264 which is the video codec that's commonly used nowadays doesn't really play nice with AVI so it's usually better to convert directly from MKV to MP4 than go through an inferior format such as AVI. I believe Handbrake can do MKV to MP4 conversion without needing to re-encode the video (basically, just takes the elemental video and audio streams from MKV and multiplexes them into MP4 container).
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but if io convert mkv to mpeg-4. would it work on the ipad? no problem with the resulted mp4?

The only thing io want to know is: is it possible to watch hd movies on ipad 3 like android tabs. I know ipad is limited is this way but it's possible heh?


The prime is unavailable everywhere so i would need to get the ipad as they are the two bests tabs out there.
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{...} Outside of the awesome resolution it displays, the image is blurred, unnatural in colour, etc. It was if I was using a blurred LCD display with washed out colours.

This statement is so wrong, I had to correct it.

Let me get this right; you're criticizing the iPad 3 which sports, by far, the best and most accurate display for color accuracy. You really need to get your eyes checked or get some high quality monitors to witness what we mean by color reproduction...

Some data that might help you understand why the iPad is the most stunning and accurate display on a tablet, by far (and I can't stress the last part enough):

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post #118 of 141
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but if io convert mkv to mpeg-4. would it work on the ipad? no problem with the resulted mp4?
The only thing io want to know is: is it possible to watch hd movies on ipad 3 like android tabs. I know ipad is limited is this way but it's possible heh?
The prime is unavailable everywhere so i would need to get the ipad as they are the two bests tabs out there.
Yeah... but it can only play mpeg-4 videos at 640x480.
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Video formats supported: H.264 video up to 1080p, 30 frames per second, High Profile level 4.1 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats; MPEG-4 video up to 2.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels, 30 frames per second, Simple Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps per channel, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats; Motion JPEG (M-JPEG) up to 35 Mbps, 1280 by 720 pixels, 30 frames per second, audio in ulaw, PCM stereo audio in .avi file format

I'd go with m4v, mp4, or .mov.
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Not sure why people say the iPad doesn't support .mkv containers.

It sure does. There are plenty of apps you can download to play your 1080p .mkv files.

Also, no they do not use the CPU to decode. I've checked the CPU usage while playing a 1080p mkv I loaded onto my iPad and then the same file muxed into a mpeg4 container and the CPU usage was the same percent using Apple's built-in player and third party players.

Also, if It used the CPU it would mean the iPad 3 would get double the battery life when decoding videos by CPU alone (which it doesn't) because the iPad 3 has a battery with nearly double the capacity as the iPad 2 but they both use the same CPU. Only the iPad 3 has a much better GPU.


Apple choose to support MKV in their player because lets face it, MKV is not really a mainstream industry format.

Name one video service that serves it's video in .mkv containers...

None, exactly. The industry has chosen the mp4 container which is a perfectly fine container.

Besides, containers aren't even a big deal, the video codec which is H.264 is what really matters and everything including Apple's built-in player support that just fine. Even high-profile which is great. If your videos are in mkv for whatever reason, it's a trivial and quick process to re-mux then into a .mp4 container.
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Not sure why people say the iPad doesn't support .mkv containers.
It sure does. There are plenty of apps you can download to play your 1080p .mkv files.
Also, no they do not use the CPU to decode. I've checked the CPU usage while playing a 1080p mkv I loaded onto my iPad and then the same file muxed into a mpeg4 container and the CPU usage was the same percent using Apple's built-in player and third party players.
Pray tell, what player are you using? I've tried like 3 3rd party apps (VLC and a couple other free ones I've forgotten) and all of them use CPU to decode.
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