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People have switched from waiting and seeing how BD performed in reviews. If you had the same budget for both systems which would you recommend more? One that performs a tad bit better or the one that is a bit slower but you most likely wouldn't notice it.. Sure there are threads that Talk down on BD and how it performs. While I like to think that if you had both systems you would not notice a difference I think in heavily cpu oriented games you would (providing you had the same internals).
Say you had to build someone a brand new computer with the same budget why would you recommend BD over SB (providing the CPU+mobo would be the same price).?

Haven't you read my posts or looked at my rigs?? I have had both. If you really want to know what I would recommend this second, it would be the 2600k. But this thread wasn't the "what CPU would you recommend for a PC ", it was is Bulldozer Good for Gaming, and it is as long as you have a good GPU like with any setup. What I've been heavily recommending to people on a budget lately is the A8 3870 APU with a 6670 xfired for $450, that rig can play all the games at High/MED settings smoothly and is cheap. I own one and can say thats it's awesome for the $$$ per performance..
 
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IF you like, the Bulldozer 4100 at $109 does as well as the more expensive Bulldozer chips for gaming.
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I was just reading some more on the upcoming Trinity APU and Piledriver and I think were're all going to be in for a treat this year. Look at last year with the 6XXX Seres and Bulldozer they were good but not great. This year 7970 and Piledriver, I think AMD was holding out for this and I believe It's going to rock, The 7970 is a really good example as to where AMD is heading this year, and I for one am saving for and plan to buy the new stuff once it comes out at the end of the year.
 
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What's to get...and what's to learn the hard way,, there's SOOO many happy AMD owners here, the only time I SEE people complaining about AMD's performance is on posts left by 2500k owners who keep insisting that the AMD is S*** and bad for games. On the other threads the FX owners threads I'm reading about happy owners who game heavily on their machines with ease. If AMD is so bad and people dont get it then why is the company in business, why havent all the AMD gamers here switch to the now CHEAP 2500k because of their inferior machines. Maybe because what you're saying isn't as true as you believe.

That's because you'd have to be... hmm, I'm not looking to get infracted... silly to buy an FX CPU for gaming. Of course you'd want to try to justify your purchase. It's called buyer's remorse.

Or is there some kind of conspiracy with all review sites and that's why BD looks like absolute CRAP for gaming?

Here, if you can't take the time to use google.

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Notice how in CrossFire the BD loses consistently by around 20% and without a hefty OC the Bulldozer still loses to a Nehalem.

Now let's look at performance with a single 7970 on Sandy Bridge compared to a single 7970 on Bulldozer.

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Haven't you read my posts or looked at my rigs?? I have had both. If you really want to know what I would recommend this second, it would be the 2600k. But this thread wasn't the "what CPU would you recommend for a PC ", it was is Bulldozer Good for Gaming, and it is as long as you have a good GPU like with any setup. What I've been heavily recommending to people on a budget lately is the A8 3870 APU with a 6670 xfired for $450, that rig can play all the games at High/MED settings smoothly and is cheap. I own one and can say thats it's awesome for the $$$ per performance..

There's a point where more GPU power does absolutely nothing for performance on an AMD platform. On an Intel platform it takes a hell of a lot of GPU power to reach that -- not sure if even quadfire 7970s are bottlenecked by a 3960X.
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hard to explain but our local hero can . . .

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hard to explain but our local hero can . . .
http://www.overclock.net/t/1185742/my-wife-would-not-approve/170

His fps would probably go up by 50% or something if he went with SB...
 
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But this thread wasn't the "what CPU would you recommend for a PC ", it was is Bulldozer Good for Gaming,

Why impose that arbitrary limitation when better options exist? Does that question not logically lead to discussion of the other options? You can't post that question without considering the substitutes. It doesn't make any sense.
    
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The answer to this question is a definite NO. The single core performance of the AMD fx series across the baord (especially with eight core renditions) is below that of intel processors such as the 2500k, which has half the cores and threads.
Go with a 2550k if you plan to use a discrete card and never use the iGPU (better OC'ing)
hope this helps.
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This is pointless, the AMD guys are happy with their CPU's so why do the Intel fanners (Mostly 2500k users) insist on posting their comments about AMD's performance on AMD related posts when nobody is going to listen or cares. Do you really think an AMD fx owner is going to say,, wow your right my CPU is S*** because you said so, Im going to get rid of it. Probably not, ,like I said budget plays a key role in what people are buying, or all the 2500k owners would have bought the 2600k..and that goes for AMD owners as well. I could tell you 1000 times that AMD FX plays games well but they will always be someone who insists other wise. Whenever I've read suggested recommendations for PC games requirments, I've never read this game will perform better on an Intel based system , not once. Also when reading reviews on games I've never read this game really should be played on an Intel based system.

So this was never about the faster CPU, it was about being able to play games on an FX machine, deep down we all know the right answer. This wasn't about what benches higher. Like aI said and will say 10000 times, theres alot of happy AMD owners, there must be a reason for this...

(BTW my system will out bench ANY 2500k, they're not that great )
 
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Why impose that arbitrary limitation when better options exist? Does that question not logically lead to discussion of the other options? You can't post that question without considering the substitutes. It doesn't make any sense.

Exactly, it really doesn't.
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