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Is it good for gaming? Yes, I don't think you'll be unable to play any game at all nowadays.

Is it the best choice? Probably not, but that doesn't mean it's bad.

If you already have the mobo, I'd say go for it and have fun.

If you have to build it from scratch, consider the intel alternatives.

Either way, happy gaming.
    
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I can't believe people are still believing all of the eariler benches and rumors around the FX line. Even after it's been proven many times that the FX line is fine and performs well, people still refuse to except it.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1210060/fx8120-vs-2500k-benchmark-results

Like I stated before the PH II line is going extinct so IMO we shoudln't be recommending these. But rumors mixed in with some out dated facts are powerful, It's like people will never use IE again because in the past it wasn't as secure as other browsers,, thats been fixed,, People stopped using and recommending Norton ineternet security because in the past it used to many system resources,, thats been fixed.. And now the FX line,, It didn't live up to some of the hype people were dissapointed by first release results, all those have gotten better after bios updates, windows updates, and cpu revisions etc,. but people will still hold onto the old ealiest test results and always base their opninion on that.

That is a shame indeed
 
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Originally Posted by alexmaia_br View Post

Is it good for gaming? Yes, I don't think you'll be unable to play any game at all nowadays.
Is it the best choice? Probably not, but that doesn't mean it's bad.
If you already have the mobo, I'd say go for it and have fun.
If you have to build it from scratch, consider the intel alternatives.
Either way, happy gaming.

This exactly.

I wouldn't do a build from scratch with that processor, but if you already have a motherboard that will work, get that one and use the extra money to get a great GPU.
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Originally Posted by Bravo2010 View Post

I can't believe people are still believing all of the eariler benches and rumors around the FX line. Even after it's been proven many times that the FX line is fine and performs well, people still refuse to except it.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1210060/fx8120-vs-2500k-benchmark-results
Like I stated before the PH II line is going extinct so IMO we shoudln't be recommending these. But rumors mixed in with some out dated facts are powerful, It's like people will never use IE again because in the past it wasn't as secure as other browsers,, thats been fixed,, People stopped using and recommending Norton ineternet security because in the past it used to many system resources,, thats been fixed.. And now the FX line,, It didn't live up to some of the hype people were dissapointed by first release results, all those have gotten better after bios updates, windows updates, and cpu revisions etc,. but people will still hold onto the old ealiest test results and always base their opninion on that.
That is a shame indeed

I hear ya, my 1100t did great, the 8150 did too but didnt offer anything from the 1100t at gaming so thats why I sold mine for a better gpu, went intel just to try things and a new cpu to overclock. On 1080p any cpu will do perfectly. its more gpu related. Skyrim seemed to have some funny issues with amd benchmarks but I dont play that game. Sometime I wish I went 8150 again since it was fun overclocking, the 2500k was just too easy lol. I do like the upsides to intel and will probably stay intel a while but amd is fine. Ford vs Chevy basically.

edit:
oh yeah, for the OP i think grabing a x4 980 for $135, 970 for $120 or a 960t for $125 on the egg is a solid choice, he has a am3 not am3+ mobo. Since he needs a new mobo plus FX cpu, he can consider intel for the same price. Just depends what the budget and how he will use it, the i3 does pretty good.
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I can't believe people are still believing all of the eariler benches and rumors around the FX line. Even after it's been proven many times that the FX line is fine and performs well, people still refuse to except it.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1210060/fx8120-vs-2500k-benchmark-results
Like I stated before the PH II line is going extinct so IMO we shoudln't be recommending these. But rumors mixed in with some out dated facts are powerful, It's like people will never use IE again because in the past it wasn't as secure as other browsers,, thats been fixed,, People stopped using and recommending Norton ineternet security because in the past it used to many system resources,, thats been fixed.. And now the FX line,, It didn't live up to some of the hype people were dissapointed by first release results, all those have gotten better after bios updates, windows updates, and cpu revisions etc,. but people will still hold onto the old ealiest test results and always base their opninion on that.
That is a shame indeed

100% agree with you! thumb.gif +Rep
and I'm one of the "Happy AMD FX User" .... I've read all those reviews to and I was disappointed as others,
but I give a try and I never regret from my purchase, and Yes I recommend this CPU to all off my friends.
Why not to if it works very well and I know this from my own experience.... not by reading some early review :
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BD is not bad, but neither is anything else made after C2D.

There are better solutions on the market so from a perf or perf/price standpoint it makes no sense to go BD.
 
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post #97 of 273
Ofc, for single gpu setups and most of the games it's ok. But if you are a Starcraft, Skyrim, Civ V or WoW geek, then you'll slap yourself after comparing 2500k to 8150. So It's conditional. There are cpu-bound games where 2500k will always be faster, and multi-gpu only widens the gap. In all other less cpu-bound games, cpu doesn't matter.

Some people from both sides take it personal and it just drags the conversations. I never deny anything, there're 1 or 2 games where 8150 tops 2500k too. I'm talking about the big picture. 2500k has more plus because, you at least get 8150 performance with only 4 cores and in some popular games, you get %20-30 more performance.

And I always say, if you can afford , get 2500k. This usually means, a rig from scratch(mobo+cpu), bulldozer doesn't make sense because prices are similar.
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And I always say, if you can afford , get 2500k. This usually means, a rig from scratch(mobo+cpu), bulldozer doesn't make sense because prices are similar
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The 2500k and 8120 Same price, and the 8150 is more $$ then the 2500k? So cost is not an issue. It's preference. Cost only comes into the picture when your comparing a 2500k to the 4100, 6100, APU's but again those are all for budget and use reasons like you mentioned. I will agree on getting more performance but 20-30% seems a bit high. That may apply to a very small amount of poorly coded games. I would say 10-15% on a handful of CPU intensive games. And for most GPUS intensive games you should be getting 60 fps on a 2500k or AMD with a good GPU.

Sorry but I had a 955BE ( OC @ 4.3 GHz) and a 6950 2 gb (shaders unlocked) and was able to run almost everything @ 60fps. The only reason I swicthed is because PC's are more like a hobby for me and I have the $$$ to sell off stuff take a loss and buy the new tech so I can have a good idea how it runs. I did skip the 2500k and went to 2600k but that should still give me a good idea how a 2500k runs.

I keep saying this AMD vs Intel = Both have there advantages and disadvantages,, Both will run games at about the same speed, period. If Intel was this much better and this much faster then AMD would be out of business. I really wish all the Intel Faners could see that.

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yes, i have the 8120 and it mows down battlefield 3... looks good, good fps....i recommend highly.
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An FX chip will be good for gaming, just to answer the OP's question--I already said this earlier, though.

What worries me about Bulldozer is the power consumption. Under load, intel is dang near smashing AMD right in the nads in regard to power consumption. Seriously, look up the power consumption for a 4.6 - 5ghz FX chip vs a similarly overclocked 2500k or 2600k, it's jaw dropping. I think a lot of people are forgetting that performance isn't the only thing that Sandy Bridge excels at, and there is a bit more than performance that the OP needs to think about.

You may want to ask yourself on whether you have the mobo for an FX chip, and most importantly, do you have enough power supply for an overclocked FX chip...because you're certainly going to need it. What's your cooling solution like?

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