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Never do multi gpu amd eyefinity if you can avoid it. One 7970 overclocked keeps my average fps around 70-80 with most of my settings on ultra. Crossfire brings many frustrating issues and is not worth the money or hassle. I recommend a card with three or more display port outs so you wont have screen tear problems. the asus cuii 7970 is what i got and its great.
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Could you give me an idea of how much wattage I would be looking for in a power supply if I went with either the solo 7970 or 2 7870's crossfired?

I would stick to a good manuf and the 900-1000w range. If you plan on adding a 3rd card, then you gotta go bigger, but 2 cards are fine at~1000w even with good overclocks.

Lolwut? For 2 way crossfire? You can run 2 way Crossfire 7970's off 650w easily, 750w is being on the "safe" side and overkill. 7870's will need even less than that. 900-1000w range is for 3 way and 4 way Crossfire with 7970's man. These cards only draw about 250w at most with one card as is. And we all know crossfire doesn't scale perfectly, which means each additional card will use less power than that.
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Never do multi gpu amd eyefinity if you can avoid it. One 7970 overclocked keeps my average fps around 70-80 with most of my settings on ultra. Crossfire brings many frustrating issues and is not worth the money or hassle. I recommend a card with three or more display port outs so you wont have screen tear problems. the asus cuii 7970 is what i got and its great.

This 110%. One 7970 will be more than enough.
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Lolwut? For 2 way crossfire? You can run 2 way Crossfire 7970's off 650w easily, 750w is being on the "safe" side and overkill. 7870's will need even less than that. 900-1000w range is for 3 way and 4 way Crossfire with 7970's man. These cards only draw about 250w at most with one card as is. And we all know crossfire doesn't scale perfectly, which means each additional card will use less power than that.
This 110%. One 7970 will be more than enough.

Well, for starters I didn't know what CPU he was using, what overclocks he was running, or if he wanted it expandable. I'm not going to tell someone 650w for a top end video card. Especially because he would need 8pin adapters because most lower wattage PSU's don't come with 8pins.

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@pioneer: Whats your thoughts about what I said/asked in my last post?
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You definitely need to ditch that Raidmax PSU no matter what you do. I'm surprised your machine hasn't caught fire yet honestly.
Are you planning on more upgrades than GPU's / monitors? Or are you keeping with the 1055T setup?

Never had one hiccup with the raidmax to be honest...it wasn't one of their cheap ones either....it has been going strong for almost 2 years...

Very similar to this one...
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I am building a new system...the only carryover part Im doing is the 1055T and my cooler master Gemini2 cpu cooler....And thats only cause I dont wanna upgrade to an Intel and also cause I can wait for the next couple AMD's comes out cause I don't wanna do the Bulldozer....

Intels looks nice...though I dont wanna wait for the Ivy Bridge and I don't wanna buy a CPU to hold me over to the Ivy Bridge Comes out....how much Performance difference do you think I would get out of a SandybridgeE (maybe a 3820) vs my 1055T overclocked to 4.0GHZ?

It's gonna have an SSD for the games and Windows 7 and Im either gonna get a Sabretooth or a UD3,5 or 7 for the Motherboard, and I am gonna do 16GB of Gskill for the Ram.....I am selling my old system as a whole.... cause I figure I can get more for it that way....

Also the reason I am saying the 7870 is because If I got two 7870's and overclocked them I essentially have the performance of two 7950's for only $150 more than the 7970...to answer your question I am not going to be getting anymore than 3 monitors...

An i3 2100 would honestly hold those video cards better than your 1055T will. I love AMD to death, but honestly it just cannot handle high end crossfire and SLI. You honestly should consider an upgrade to Intel.

A 3820 at bone stock would eat your 1055T alive with a high end multi GPU config (or even sometimes single card). Not to mention the 3820 does 4.5-4.8GHz and higher. If you want to jump into high end GPU's, even just one....you really should consider a platform swap. Not saying you HAVE to, but you will find out the hard way that your AMD chip will hold back performance of those high end cards.

And what I was saying about the video cards, yes you can do two 7870's overclocked, to equal stock 7950's. However you will NEVER be able to add another card to the 7870's for tri fire if you wanted more power later. You'll have no choice but to ditch them and buy something else. With a single 7970, you can always add another card or three. A 7990 or even a 7950...whatever you want out of the 7900 series. And overclocked, the 7970 should be pretty darn close to the performance of the 7870 crossfire...and its cheaper. Might as well buy the GPU that will allow easy future upgrades, rather than one that you're stuck with no upgrade path later on.
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How are the new Ivy Bridges gonna be different than the Sandy's? Also is it true with Intels that it seems like they change their sockets all the time.....IE I believe the 2011 Socket is Intel's newest socket (correct?)....Is the Ivy bridge gonna be this same socket as well? Also it seems that if I got an intel and wanted to do an upgrade down the road im likely to be on another socket and need another mobo whereas the AM3+ is gonna be the socket of choice for a while for AMD I believe and I will be able to use my Mobo again for an upgrade...any thoughts?
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Get an Intel, trust me. Buy a i5 2550K, since you wont need the onboard graphics, or an I7 2600K if you cant wait for Ivy Bridge. Ivy Bridge will be for 1155. Also, if you want a little guess on the power of sandy bridge, Listen to this. My I5 2500k got to 4GHz, and I havent tried to push harder or higher, on stock 1.2v core voltage. That's pretty nice in my opinion. I still fly in games pretty well, but in my higher-end games like BF3, my Nvidia 450 is holding me back :/ But you should be fine with that 7970. Check out my Sig rig. Every item in my rig I 100% reccomend.

Edit:

Ivy bridge for the most part, as far as i know, is just a die sizedown of sandy bridge. It OCs better with lower voltages, but it does supposedly have a lower safe voltage max. Also, the onboard graphics of Intel HD4000 is supposed to be pretty nice, being able to run some low-end titles well. Though you'd only mainly need that to hold you over if your discrete GPU went out for some reason.
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Ivy Bridge will be LGA 1155 (same as Sandy Bridge now). SB-E is 2011. They're the same thing, its just mainstream vs. enthusiast. Ivy is coming to 1155 only for now. Intel has stated that Ivy-E might not reach 2011 till late 2013.

Ivy Bridge is supposed to be roughly 10% faster clock for clock than standard 1155 Sandy Bridge, and it should clock further, with less voltage and TDP.
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Question what are Intel's sockets (newest to oldest)?
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Question what are Intel's sockets (newest to oldest)?

I don't remember all of the REALLY old ones.... but P4 and newer:

Socket 423
Socket 478
LGA 775 (P4's and Pentium D's)
LGA 775 (Core 2 Duo / Core 2 Quad)
LGA 1366 (Nehalem i7's)
LGA 1156 (mainstream 1366)
LGA 1155 (mainstream Sandy Bridge)
LGA 2011 (enthusiast Sandy Bridge)
LGA 1155 again (z77 boards coming out next month, new chipset for Ivy Bridge, but z68 and P67 boards work fine too)
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