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@ Darkpriest667
So considering the NSA is supposed to aid in defending our country, why with all their knowledge as you have so eloquently expressed, did they not stop 9/11 from happening? thinking.gif

I guess you don't know 9/11 was perpetrated by the US government. It was a planned event.
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post #42 of 94
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@ Darkpriest667
So considering the NSA is supposed to aid in defending our country, why with all their knowledge as you have so eloquently expressed, did they not stop 9/11 from happening? thinking.gif

Why did FDR not stop Pearl Harbor even though the intelligence existed for several weeks that the japanese fleet was headed towards hawaii?


I'm not going to speculate on why 9/11 happened.


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Either you're making stuff up, or you just committed treason. Which is it?
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Treason - The crime of betraying one's country, esp. by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government


I didn't commit treason. I also did not make any of that up. I have never advocated for attempting to kill the leadership or overthrow the U.S. govt. I happen to be ok with the U.S. govt as it stands.
Edited by Darkpriest667 - 3/16/12 at 4:43am
 
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post #43 of 94
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@ Darkpriest667
So considering the NSA is supposed to aid in defending our country, why with all their knowledge as you have so eloquently expressed, did they not stop 9/11 from happening? thinking.gif

Why would they?
9/11 made the people happily give up more and more freedoms.
Along with starting several wars/conflicts to drive the MIC
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Treason - The crime of betraying one's country, esp. by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government
I didn't commit treason. I also did not make any of that up. I have never advocated for attempting to kill the leadership or overthrow the U.S. govt. I happen to be ok with the U.S. govt as it stands.
If it is true, then you committed treason by betraying your country. You posted confidential information on a public forum, and now the country's enemies could learn it, if they found this page, adapting their methods accordingly, and thus you helped subvert the defense efforts of your country. The definition says "especially", not "exclusively". Also, pulling out definitions is dumb. You know what I meant.

The difference between the article and your post is that the information in the article presumably came from officials authorized to talk about it.
Edited by Coma - 3/16/12 at 4:58am
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If it is true, then you committed treason by betraying your country. You posted confidential information on a public forum, and now the country's enemies could learn it, if they found this page, adapting their methods accordingly, and thus you helped subvert the defense efforts of your country. The definition says "especially", not "exclusively". Also, pulling out definitions is dumb. You know what I meant.

It's not confidential.
The "enemies" already know all this.
And anyone in the US can be charged with treason for any reason anyways so it doesn't really matter.

And as for how they communicate between themselves, Physical methods, dedicated lines, encrypted messages work as well if it's something that doesn't matter if the "enemy" figures it out a week later.
Edited by OwnedINC - 3/16/12 at 5:03am
post #46 of 94
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What do you do when everyone's a suspect? The NSA doesn't know you.
And why wouldn't they take it seriously? Have you been following the news?
Either you're making stuff up, or you just committed treason. Which is it?
There's a problem with this logic. How does the NSA communicate securely? If every encryption standard has a weak point meant to be exploited by them, how do they know others haven't found it and are using it to read their communications?
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If it is true, then you committed treason by betraying your country. You posted confidential information on a public forum, and now the country's enemies could learn it, if they found this page, adapting their methods accordingly, and thus you helped subvert the defense efforts of your country. The definition says "especially", not "exclusively". Also, pulling out definitions is dumb. You know what I meant.
The difference between the article and your post is that the information in the article presumably came from officials authorized to talk about it.

Nothing I gave you was classified if thats what you're trying to infer. I'm done with the argument. I've said what I had to say.
 
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I have been on both sides of the law. Trust me you can have less freedom. I was charged with engaging in org crime in the late 90s. For selling weed across 3 state lines. Nothing huge the fact is i didnt even know most of the people charged with me. but according to the law 5 people or more in an ongoing criminal endevor is orginized crime. I was arrested and sent to prison for 1835 days but whos counting. Today iam a good man work everyday, support my family. I lost my father, missed my 2 sisters and brother get married ans 3 of my neices and nephews being born. So the people whining about they read my monitor my emails and internet traffic. Trust me when i say you have no idea how much you can lose. Be happy someone is looking out for you and you countrys intrest.
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So the people whining about they read my monitor my emails and internet traffic. Trust me when i say you have no idea how much you can lose. Be happy someone is looking out for you and you countrys intrest.

And eventually we'll end up where you left.
But you're already used to it so no big deal right?
Also they're more certainly NOT looking out for MY interests.
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I want the next ice age, kill some of these people off...please.
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