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Just added a 3rd IPad. My kid now has the 64GB Mini, gave my wife the 16GB Mini and I just picked up the 128GB IPad 4th gen.

Lol, I thought you were waiting for a 128GB Mini? Congrats on your new iPad. The extra capacity should give you some much needed breathing room.
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From what I have read. the new Mini with Retina won't be out this year (although a non retina refresh may be pending).

I'll probably get one of those too.

One thing I can say about the 4th gen IPad is holy smokes is is fast! I had an IPad 2 and now a pair of Mini's (which have the same horsepower). The 4th gen runs large mkv files without a hiccup while the Mini's struggled to keep framerates up.
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I would recommend any android tablet, the Apple product is just so unfriendly. I used the 4th gen for less than a week gave it back and would never get another. Why Apple do not see fit to give you the ability to plug and play is beyond me, and for iTunes, well I better not swear as I will be banned. Reading through this thread I have noticed a lot of people asking how to save/read PDF, linking to PC's (most probably to transfer data) and many other problems. One easy solution that helped me, is jump ship and buy a product that works straight out of the box, you can transfer data via sd or USB, no need for iTunes at all. The only thing I have noticed with Apple vs Android is that you can put anything you like on the Android, whereas Apple you only have the store.

Personally I find the user experience on the Android far superior and I do not have any issues connecting, sharing, creating. The main reason for having a tablet was to manipulate images from my DSLR on the move (No Wifi or 3/4G in my area) then leave the tablet uploading when I get home. Don't get me wrong the iPad is a reasonable product, most probably better if you have another apple product to play around with. But for my needs the Android works better, faster and is far more compatible with my home network (Three PC's, two laptops, and a couple of other android tablet). This is only my experience, so please don't be nasty I am only sharing from my personal experience.


P.S. If you have an Apple product good for you, I hope it brings you as much pleasure to be capable of working and playing without the need to carry half a ton of laptop, as I am much happier with a tablet than a full blown heavy arsed lappy. Take care and enjoy your tech for if it ain't fun, then you'd be better off getting the other one (Apple or Android).
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Personally I am not a fan of ITunes (putting it mildly). With that said, I have owned pretty much every iteration of Android tablets at both the 7 and 10 inch range (and in between) over the last several years.

However, load the right apps and it's connect to PC, run ITunes, add files and away you go. Yes it requires an extra step over an Android device and the lack of a Micro SD slot is a big peeve of mine.

Is Android more tinker friendly? Yes. Is it an easy drag and drop for files? Yes. Is it plug and play with any PC? Yes. Do "some" Android tablets have Micro SD slots? Yes Do "some" Android tablets have HDMI out? Yes

Do Android devices occasionally crash for no discernable reason? Yes. Do Android apps sometimes not cooperate on different devices? Yes Do Android devices in general have less battery life? Yes. Are Android tablets dependent on OS updates to fix out of the box issues? Yes. Do "some Android devices ship with poor quality controls (raised screens for example)? Yes. Is it hard to find decent cases for "some" Android devices? Yes


Comparing pro's and con's between the two ecosystems makes it a tough choice as to what suits better. I always seem to end up back at IPads (and especially the Mini). They don't crash, the apps do what they are supposed to do and the build quality of the IPad's and the Mini are unmatched in the Android world. Plus the accessories available for the IPad's and Mini's are endless...
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I would recommend any android tablet, the Apple product is just so unfriendly. I used the 4th gen for less than a week gave it back and would never get another. Why Apple do not see fit to give you the ability to plug and play is beyond me, and for iTunes, well I better not swear as I will be banned. Reading through this thread I have noticed a lot of people asking how to save/read PDF, linking to PC's (most probably to transfer data) and many other problems. One easy solution that helped me, is jump ship and buy a product that works straight out of the box, you can transfer data via sd or USB, no need for iTunes at all. The only thing I have noticed with Apple vs Android is that you can put anything you like on the Android, whereas Apple you only have the store.

Personally I find the user experience on the Android far superior and I do not have any issues connecting, sharing, creating. The main reason for having a tablet was to manipulate images from my DSLR on the move (No Wifi or 3/4G in my area) then leave the tablet uploading when I get home. Don't get me wrong the iPad is a reasonable product, most probably better if you have another apple product to play around with. But for my needs the Android works better, faster and is far more compatible with my home network (Three PC's, two laptops, and a couple of other android tablet). This is only my experience, so please don't be nasty I am only sharing from my personal experience.


P.S. If you have an Apple product good for you, I hope it brings you as much pleasure to be capable of working and playing without the need to carry half a ton of laptop, as I am much happier with a tablet than a full blown heavy arsed lappy. Take care and enjoy your tech for if it ain't fun, then you'd be better off getting the other one (Apple or Android).
There are benefits and negatives to each platform. Your welcome to your opinion but speaking for myself I really enjoy my iPad mini (and my iPad 3 before that). That doesn't mean some of us don't also enjoy Android tablets.

The unfriendly nature you speak of sounds like just loading files on the device. I would agree it would be nice if Apple made the iPad plug and play like a flash drive where you could easily load files. Still there are easy ways around that, you can easily load files via emailing yourself or using an app like Dropbox. To be fair Google's own Nexus Android tablets lack any kind of SD card slot. That's not to say I wouldn't want one.

You also fail to mention the upsides to iOS which it doesn't seem like you took enough time to notice. Since owning my iPad mini in November 2012 I have not had a single OS reboot or stability issue (maybe a few rare app crashes). Apple has a much larger selection of tablet specific apps than Android. Overall Apples experience has been great for me. I use it to stream movies and TV shows (Amazon Prime Instant Video), surf the web (Safari/Chrome), online shopping (Amazon Mobile and eBay), read library books (Overdrive Console), take notes (Notes), as a Bible at church (ESV Bible), play games (many), listen to music in my car via Bluetooth steaming (Music), and as a GPS with a $25 TomTom Bluetooth GPS adapter (Jailbroken, and roqyBT4 on Cydia and Navfree USA).

Now Android has many positives as well, as you mentioned. It is extremely customizable and can download files and load apps from outside sources on the Internet. With Android 4.1 and beyond Google has gotten a fairly fluid and stable OS, which was very lacking in the past. Their tablets are also usually cheaper than the equivalent iPad like the Nexus 10 16GB at $100 cheaper (than iPad 4 16GB) and Nexus 7 16GB at $130 cheaper (than iPad mini 16GB). Just recently I ordered a B&N Nook HD+ 9" 32GB (1920x1280 IPS) tablet because it was on sale for $209, recently got the Google Play Store, and has a Micro SD card for expansion and modding. Personally I enjoy playing with all platforms (iOS, Android, and Windows 8 Pro). Just for me Apple has the more consistent and reliable user experience.
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A bit tetchy but I have come to expect that if you mention anything about anything from the tech world. Be it AMD or Intel, ATI or nVidia, Apple or Andorid, you end up with people shoving the blinkers on and talking a load of old and tired news, or even out and out lies. To be honest I have never had an app crash, well not since the last few updates) on any of our Androids, yet the iPhone (I think it is a 3gs but not sure as it is my partners) freezes all the time. Anyhow, thanks for not turning this into a war, that was not my intention. Like I say if you have the Apple ecosystem then I am sure they work more fluidly, but it still makes me smile when I'm told it is easy to email yourself data to use on a device in your hands.

Let's face it technology is meant to make life easier and less complicated. So why add anything in between you and the device? Like I said, in my experience life is much more complicated with an Apple product connecting to my PC environment, than it maybe with someone within an Apple closed wall environment. Now I am not saying that having such homogeneity is a bad thing, I am saying that it does not work for all. I prefer the openness of Linux over the clunky Microsoft world, and I would choose either over the Apple ecosystem, that is personal preference from personal experience. If Linux had it's house in order I would be using it all the time but as it stands I only have use Windohs.



P.S. Isn't it funny how Woedohs users can take the pee out of their OS of choice, yet it starts a almighty row when Apple is brought in. On this problems with Androids, remember antenna gate, battery gate, holding it the wrong way gate, etc etc. Remember advanced tech always comes with problems that were not expected when tested in a lab. NO tech is without fault, and until computers build themselves they will always have the added function called human error.
Edited by Horus - 5/15/13 at 1:01am
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Welcome all new members!

@Horus: I'm glad to see conversation happening here, but of course, this is an owners club, so you're likely to find people here who are biased toward Apple products. If you want to debate Apple vs Android, I recommend you start your own thread to do so. This may not really the best place if you want to have a fair and unbiased discussion about Apple vs. Android, but of course I don't have any problem with you chatting.

One thing I would ask though, is to please refrain from suggesting that members of the club that have taken the time to formulate a thoughtful reply to your commentary are simply "shoving the blinkers on and talking a load of old and tired news, or even out and out lies." No one is doing that here, and I see that our members have been careful to point out that they are speaking from their own personal experiences.
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Welcome all new members!

@Horus: I'm glad to see conversation happening here, but of course, this is an owners club, so you're likely to find people here who are biased toward Apple products. If you want to debate Apple vs Android, I recommend you start your own thread to do so. This may not really the best place if you want to have a fair and unbiased discussion about Apple vs. Android, but of course I don't have any problem with you chatting.

Unfortunately so. I strongly believe in being platform agnostic. I switched from a first gen iPad to a Surface Pro and for productivity, it is miles ahead of the iPad (mainly because it is a real PC). Sure, the battery life is lower, but it's a tradoff that I'm more than happy to make.
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Unfortunately so. I strongly believe in being platform agnostic. I switched from a first gen iPad to a Surface Pro and for productivity, it is miles ahead of the iPad (mainly because it is a real PC).

Same here. Don't really fancy the Surface Pro but am very much looking forward to getting either the Asus Transformer Book or Lenovo Thinkpad Helix. I reckon I'd probably still get an iPad 5 128GB and iPad Mini with retina display when those get released. My poor wallet...
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Logitech K800 Lian Li PC-Q05B Logitech M570 
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Core i7-860 Gigabyte GA-H55N-USB3 EVGA GTX 460 1GB GDDR5 Kingston 2x4GB DDR3 1333 
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G.SKILL Phoenix Pro 120GB Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Silverstone ST45SF 450W Silverstone Sugo SG05B 
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Core i7-860 Biostar TH55B HD MSI GT 240 1GB GDDR5 Kingston 2x2GB DDR3 1333 
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Intel X25-M 120GB Windows 7 Ultimate x86 Samsung 22" Antec EA-380D 
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Rosewill R101-P-BK 
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