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So in the most demanding game the 680 beat the 7970 by 2fps? Sorry I'm not regretting my purchase at all.
Also the 7970's 3dmark 11 score is about 500 points too low. I score about 10,000 graphics score with my daily OC. If I can OC my 7970 800 points past a stock 680 score I'm not putting much money on the 680 being faster by more then 10%.
The way this is shaping up they are basically the same card. The 680 will no doubt be faster in some benchmarks but I'm almost positive the 7970 will be faster in some as well.
Again 2FPS in BF3. Really tells you all you need to know.
Also those temperature numbers are BS. My 7970 at 350mhz overclock doesn't hit 80 degrees on a reference cooler with the stock fan profile. I don't believe for a second theres hits 86 at stock. In fact no review of the 7970 out there has the card running that hot.

That's with older drivers.
I'd expect a huge increase in performance once Nivida puts out optimized drivers for Kepler. wink.gif
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Guys just in. AMD is working on a New Amazing card but its not ready yet. All they could tell us is that HD 7970 is a Low-End Card. Yes Nvidia Needs a Mid-Range GPU to beat a Low-End GPU.
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post #263 of 425
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How can you tell it's midrange when it, nor any other keplar cards, have even been reviewed, let alone released?

LoL'z moar denial... biggrin.gif

Read the Nvidia roadmap.
GK104 is the 560/560ti replacement.

On a side-note it'll be interesting to see what kind of monster GK110 is going to be... smile.gif
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How can you tell it's midrange when it, nor any other keplar cards, have even been reviewed, let alone released?

Didn't you hear? Unreleased parts that aren't in engineering sample status, and not verified, are considered high end.

Ivy bridge = mid range, Haswell = high end

7970 = low end, Sea island = mid range

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I know, right. So many r-tards on this site.

The 9800GTX is the only flagship GPU in recent memory from Nvidia with a die size smaller than 470mm^2.

Is there any reason they wouldn't be working on a bigger version of kepler since they've done big chips on every node.

I guess the 4770 must have been AMDs flagship 40nm GPU since it came out first, oh and the 6870 must have been the HD6K flagship. rolleyes.gif

Nvidia releasing GK104 first doesn't mean that there isn't a higher end part coming down the line. It might take a while like fermi did, but it'll be here. Might be named 780, or something else but it doesn't really matter.
 
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LoL'z moar denial... biggrin.gif
Read the Nvidia roadmap.
GK104 is the 560/560ti replacement.
On a side-note it'll be interesting to see what kind of monster GK110 is going to be... smile.gif

How Can Replacement of GTX560 Ti be $300 more? Also last time i checked if GTX680 is 10% faster then HD 7970 that got to be the biggest performance jump from any midrange. GTX560 to GTX680 is Huge difference. More then 50%. Not Possible.
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How Can Replacement of GTX560 Ti be $300 more? Also last time i checked if GTX680 is 10% faster then HD 7970 that got to be the biggest performance jump from any midrange. GTX560 to GTX680 is Huge difference. More then 50%. Not Possible.

it's twice the perf/watt at least according to the Nvidia slides, which are probably true considering the die size that points to a mid range design (has nothing to do with the effective place in the card range), and the reported TDP.

450

It actually IS a huge jump for Nvidia. They're putting over 7970 perf on the table with a smaller die. They just went from providing this level of perf compared to the competition with a 550mm^2 die to providing it with a 300mm^2 die. Huge. jump.
 
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Why are people mad about this card being close to the 7970 in battlefield 3?
The 7970 is a pure joy in games, the GTX 680 will be the same!

Yeah it's incredible how many people who aren't even going to buy the card are posting here in a negative way when they have no intentions of switching to Nvidia or even upgrading, most of them AMD owners. wink.gif

It's a pissing contest and thier pissed they might not be on top. Three months late wasn't enough and they're hoping Nvidia would have fell even further on thier faces.

Some pulled the trigger to early who were on the fence with an AMD and might have buyers remorse. Now they are trying to justify thier purchase.

Some have intentions of purchasing an AMD card also trying to justify spending as much as the Nvidia counter part.

I don't recall when AMD came out with Tahiti news even close to this animosity. In fact mostly got pats on the back for a good performing card, being out first, and lastly it was a window what Nvidia might bring to the table something to look forward to.

*shrugs*

Couldn't have said it better myself.

I'd give you +Rep, but I'm on my mobile phone, and I'm at work as type this, lol.

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Yeah it's incredible how many people who aren't even going to buy the card are posting here in a negative way when they have no intentions of switching to Nvidia or even upgrading, most of them AMD owners. wink.gif
It's a pissing contest and thier pissed they might not be on top. Three months late wasn't enough and they're hoping Nvidia would have fell even further on thier faces.
Some pulled the trigger to early who were on the fence with an AMD and might have buyers remorse. Now they are trying to justify thier purchase.
Some have intentions of purchasing an AMD card also trying to justify spending as much as the Nvidia counter part.
I don't recall when AMD came out with Tahiti news even close to this animosity. In fact mostly got pats on the back for a good performing card, being out first, and lastly it was a window what Nvidia might bring to the table something to look forward to.
*shrugs*

This. Thank gosh for 30-day return periods, this AMD card (7950 OC Gigabyte) is going back! UPS pickup scheduled from Amazon for Monday. Good riddance bad drivers! I don't get why fanATIcs have such a zealotry against other manufacturers, but historically they are way way worse than even normal fanboys. Most fanboys even won't crusade that hard... while the bulk of us just want to buy what's best.
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This. Thank gosh for 30-day return periods, this AMD card (7950 OC Gigabyte) is going back! UPS pickup scheduled from Amazon for Monday. Good riddance bad drivers! I don't get why fanATIcs have such a zealotry against other manufacturers, but historically they are way way worse than even normal fanboys. Most fanboys even won't crusade that hard... while the bulk of us just want to buy what's best.

Yeah, all the nvidia fanboys should get together and pat each other on the back thumb.gif I felt the same way when I sold my 580s. No more TDR's, Didn't have to roll back to 275 just to have a usable system. Judging from the Geforce.com forums, the TDR bug is still a huge issue that hasn't been fixed yet. I certainly got sick of having to use old drivers.

Still waiting on legitimate numbers, since apparently these are fake. Not having real numbers definitely won't stop some of the claims around here though thumb.gif
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