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I don't have much hard evidence on the Recon 3D, and most people sooner or later find themselves wanting good sound quality for a movie or music, so I would suggest the Titanium HD.

However, from what I've heard (and from my own opinion without any factual evidence) the Recon 3D may actually be better for PURELY gaming, and is cheaper to boot.

Games don't usually have particularly high quality or detailed audio - certainly not enough that the higher sound quality of the Titanium HD would matter. The Recon 3D will have AT LEAST as good of positioning as the HD and MAY have better.
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Originally Posted by lilraver018 View Post

The titanium HD by creative is alot better for gaming then asus cards. I can say that asus is generally better for hi fidelity then gaming. While creative has better positioning drivers and etc.
THe one you listed is a great budget card for music and movies, however for gaming i would look towards creative side.

i had this card before and work well but nothing compare to the one i have now but asus are realy good the only thing i hate about creative is the software instalation and the software itself - -
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Originally Posted by TickleMeElmo View Post

STX is not a gaming card. It doesn't support surround sound for one, instead it just emulates it, although that isn't an issue for headphones. Although both of the cards you named are aimed at the entry level audiophile rather than the gamer. You would get similar sound quality out of a far cheaper card (especially considering most game music is heavily compressed and the sound position is far more important than fidelity.
I can say for a fact that the DAC on the STX is better and the fact that it boost gain is a plus for headphones with higher impedance.

You cannot say this for a fact. Please do not mislead others. Sound is very subjective.

The DAC on both the STX and Titanium HD are the same. "Burr-Brown PCM 1794"

The difference between the STX and Titanium HD in terms of audio fidelity sound quality is mostly based on the OPAMP combination being used. The 2 cards do differ in presentation, neither superior to the other just different. HD has a warmer sound while STX is brighter. There is a little more to it that of course.
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Is the amplifier contained in the Recon3D PCIe able to drive a pair of DT 990 600 ohms?
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You cannot say this for a fact. Please do not mislead others. Sound is very subjective.
The DAC on both the STX and Titanium HD are the same. "Burr-Brown PCM 1794"
The difference between the STX and Titanium HD in terms of audio fidelity sound quality is mostly based on the OPAMP combination being used. The 2 cards do differ in presentation, neither superior to the other just different. HD has a warmer sound while STX is brighter. There is a little more to it that of course.

You can easily have the same DAC chip in two different devices and get very different performance, particularly if the "ceiling" of the DAC in terms of what the spec sheet says should be possible, is high (which is the case here). Also I would think it's kind of unlikely that the op amps prior to the headphone output stage would make much of a difference. Most decent audio op amps that would be used these days, have really good performance being used for a little gain or just buffering another stage.

That said, I haven't seen legit benchmarks of the Titanium HD, though as we all know, the performance is going to depend on the computer it's installed in, so a comparison to another card in another system would not be valid.
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You are absolutely 100% correct in regards to your statement. The DAC is only one small part of the chain. As far as benchmarks go, what exactly do you feel constitutes as a legit benchmark?
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You are absolutely 100% correct in regards to your statement. The DAC is only one small part of the chain. As far as benchmarks go, what exactly do you feel constitutes as a legit benchmark?

Some kind of typical THD / IMD / noise / whatever results from a real audio analyzer would count as legit I guess. I don't think most people have an AP or equivalent though. Some properly-run tests through a computer sound card interface (with a really really good ADC) I guess would be a start, even if it's just RMAA.
post #19 of 41
I have owned the Recon3d professional and it pails in comparison to my new Titanium hd that i just bought from that sale.

The software was quite buggy. if you search for my thread, I posted a overview of the card when it was first released. I stated all the issues I had with it and how the microphone that it came with was next to worthless. It did nothing it was advertised.

Furthermore, EAX5.0, from what I've seen online, is NOT hardware acceleration on the Recon3d chipset despite what their reputation is for.
The quad core chip on the recon3d is a complete gimmick.

There is a reason why that card has received a 25-40% price cut even thought it just came out 2-3months ago.

I strongly advise that you either pick the Titanium HD or the STX.

I went with Hd over STX simply because the $50 extra for the STX wasn't worth it for me especially since the HD is better for gaming.
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I have owned the Recon3d professional and it pails in comparison to my new Titanium hd that i just bought from that sale.
The software was quite buggy. if you search for my thread, I posted a overview of the card when it was first released. I stated all the issues I had with it and how the microphone that it came with was next to worthless. It did nothing it was advertised.
Furthermore, EAX5.0, from what I've seen online, is NOT hardware acceleration on the Recon3d chipset despite what their reputation is for.
The quad core chip on the recon3d is a complete gimmick.
There is a reason why that card has received a 25-40% price cut even thought it just came out 2-3months ago.
I strongly advise that you either pick the Titanium HD or the STX.
I went with Hd over STX simply because the $50 extra for the STX wasn't worth it for me especially since the HD is better for gaming.

Better because of overall sound, or better because it sounds better and has better positional audio? Like I said the positional audio is what I'm looking for.
     
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