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So wait... a mentally challenged individual says IE9 is good, so we're supposed to agree?
Something tells me that they didn't fully think this through...


That said, I've been using IE9 for the past few days for development purposes... I'm actually warming to it.
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I think IE8 and up are fine browsers. I just don't think they provide a better experience than Chrome, Opera, or Firefox.

I can't think of any advantage of using it off the top of my head.
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I think IE89 and up are fine browsers. I just don't think they provide a better experience than Chrome, Opera, or Firefox.
I can't think of any advantage of using it off the top of my head.

Fixed that for you.
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Web Development, design. I don't know what the proper term is. The class is called Website Design II, so that's what I refer to it as. It's a high school course, so I wouldn't expect it to be nearly to the level of a college level class. Most people in the class have trouble coding, they must use Adobe Dreamweaver because they don't know a lick of code, and the teacher doesn't enforce it.
Secondly, I like to try out new things. It's not necessarily holding me back, but if I want to use some of the cool stuff that CSS3 allows me to do on a project, I'd have to bring in my own laptop (I don't own a laptop) and present it through there. And my school doesn't even allow that.
Thirdly, the images statement was referring to an experience I had the other day in class. I had a 700x200 "div" box on a page that I wanted to have rounded corners, and I was told that without images, it wasn't possible (On IE8). Even after some Googling I couldn't find a solution that allowed me to do it. The same thing applies to glowing text, drop shadows, and a lot of other cool stuff CSS3 lets you do. I didn't try Dreamweaver because I hate it, I prefer to learn the code instead of having some piece of software do everything for me.
And my mom, dad, and grandma all use IE9. I know how it is. It just "feels" sluggish. It may not to you, but to me, It doesn't feel like a speedy browser. And as far as the specs for the computers it's running on, I've tried it on my computer, my dads (Athlon II X2 with 2GB RAM), my grandma's (AMD Sempron with 1GB RAM), and my mom's (Core i5 with 4GB RAM) and I have the same experience across all of them. Waterfox feels snappier.

CSS3 does have some nice features to it (AKA thing that can been done with it (Coded)), but some of the best design websites in the word use images and that is not going to change anytime soon. Customers do not care if you use images or not, they just want the site to look good, attract customers, be search engine optimized, secured, cross browser compatible, and load in a reasonable amount of time.

The images you would need for a 700x200 div container would be next nothing and could be use repetitively through out the site. You do not need one big image, you can break them up and can even use one corner image and some coding for all corners (Best to use 4 images for compatibility reasons).

Also, best to just go out and learn on your own. Most classes only teach you a fraction of you need to know (Lucky if you learn more than 25% in a class or 2).

Waterfox is not snappier than IE9. It's all in your head, do not trick yourself like so many other do. Hopefully you're not using crappy tool-bars. There is no need for tool-bars in browsers or poorly developed/designed add-ons. Just so you no. Tool-bars are for the weak and uninformed noobs.

Also, some premium security programs come with browser add-ons that will slow down browsers (IE and FF).
Edited by Horse Head - 3/17/12 at 12:37pm
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Mutt (CLI) and Thunderbird for me.
Last time I used Outlook 2010 on my gf's netbook, it took me like... 5 hours to get her hotmail to work with it. At first it straight up refused, went and googled after a while, ended up getting it to log in and send the test mail, then googled some more, then got it to log in and download mail (for the first run), after that it didn't download any new ones. Googled some more, failed some more, googled some more, rinse and repeat a few times for an hour or 2, then finally got it working. And that was trying everything, from the stupid outlook extender thing microsoft makes for hotmail accounts and straight smtp/pop settings.
I can not describe how utterly horrible Outlook 2010 is. But she was dead set on using it and got the license for free, so whatever.
Mutt and Thunderbird, easy. One try, everything works, happy me.

The Outlook Extender never work right. It was and still is hit or miss. But, Outlook crushes Thunderbird. Thunderbird has potential, but it cannot keep up with MS Office Outlook. Microsoft puts time and money into the MS Office programs.

Microsoft Outlook allows me to use all my premium add-ons right in the client. And MS word as my e mail editor is absolutely awesome. Microsoft Outlook is the standard in the business world and any pro Outlook user knows why. You will find a-lot of business actually require Microsoft Office Outlook and Word as a requirement to get hired.
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I use IE9 for sites that chrome won't display (happens often). I used firefox since ~2005 but then it started causing me problems/BSOD a few months ago. I switched to chrome for one reason only: I re-install windows a lot and it syncs my stuff so I don't have to re-do every time. If IE9 could do this I would use it for sure.

WebBrowser caused BSOD? Nice! Where can I download that particular version of Firefox you used which does low level operations and installs it's own driver? Please I love to bsod with Firefox.
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For me its Chrome>IE9>FF. thumb.gif Other versions of IE sucks balls.
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The Outlook Extender never work right. It was and still is hit or miss. But, Outlook crushes Thunderbird. Thunderbird has potential, but it cannot keep up with MS Office Outlook. Microsoft puts time and money into the MS Office programs.
Microsoft Outlook allows me to use all my premium add-ons right in the client. And MS word as my e mail editor is absolutely awesome. Microsoft Outlook is the standard in the business world and any pro Outlook user knows why. You will find a-lot of business actually require Microsoft Office Outlook and Word as a requirement to get hired.

To each his own. I still stand by my statement. My experience with Outlook has always been pretty horrid. I'll stick to Mutt.
post #79 of 94
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Originally Posted by MGX1016 View Post

There was no way to uninstall IE8..... I mean not really..................... The most you could do is hide the shortcut and every1 lyke 0mg my interwebz is gone!
you got a long way to go, my young padawan

  1. Exit all programs.
  2. Click Start
  3. Start button, and then click Control Panel.
  4. Click Programs and Features.
  5. In the Task pane, click Turn Windows features on or off.
  6. In the list of windows features, click to clear the check box next to Internet Explorer 8.
  7. In the window that opens, click Yes in response to the warning message.
post #80 of 94
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Originally Posted by kennyparker1337 View Post

I About time Microsoft owned up to forcing one of the worsts browsers down people's throats.

Bundling your own browser with your own operating system while not removing the ability to freely install an alternative = forcing it down your throat?

Fail logic is fail.
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