Originally Posted by cpachris
Yes, I think you are. And I'm not trying to insult you.But the fallacy in your logic is that you seem to believe it must cost more to spin a fan motor faster. In reality, almost any 12 volt fan out there could spin faster or slower than it does...just by changing the circuitry...not the motor itself or any of the parts. FrozenCPU also sells the GT AP-29 (3,000 rpm), AP-30 (4,250 rpm) and the AP-31 (5,400 rpm) for $23 bucks each. They don't get more expensive just because they are spinning faster.
The AP-13, AP-14, AP-15 and now the newly introduced AP-45....probably are all the same fan....with circuitry that spins them at different speeds. Since you've worked "a lot with a big named jewelry company" I'm sure you aware that to a certain extent it is demand for a product that drives the price. Resellers don't use the exact same mark-up for every fan that they sell. I would guess that the AP-13, 14, 15 and 45 are all sold by Nidec for the exact same price. Differences in reseller pricing will depend on any bulk discounts they got, and their perceived demand for the fan. Pretend I'm FrozenCPU and I just bought 100 Fan A's, and 100 Fan B's, and they all cost me $10 bucks each. But Fan A has been a run-away best seller for 2 years now...and there is pent-up demand for Fan A, and it sells out almost as soon as I get them. Fan B doesn't sell as well. Do you think I'm going to sell Fan A for the same price as Fan B? Demand drives product pricing. Especially when there are zero to negligible differences in the cost of making the products.
Again, I'm not trying to pick a fight with you. But you need to get over the mentality of "if it spins faster, it must cost more". That is simply not the case. And the demand for a slower spinning fan may be much greater than a higher spinning fan, if people value noise level more than air flow. So...I'm also going to resist your label of "higher performing fan" being assigned to the AP-45...because some people may not consider it higher performing at all.....if its creating noise levels that they are uncomfortable with. Noise would have to be considered.
I'll also point out that the price of the AP-15's has ranged from like $12 to $25 bucks over the last few years depending on how available they were from re-sellers. Does that mean you were getting a better fan back when we had to pay $25 for a AP-15?
Thank you for the post, do you have any sources that can guarantee me all fans are the same and cost the same?
The reason i ask is because you say there is a fallacy in my logic, then provide more proof to back up my logic.
AP-30 , AP-29, AP-31 all can "spin faster" and "perform faster" and cost _more_
AP-45 can "spin faster" and "perform faster" and cost _less_
ap-15 is lower spinning and lower performing than all, costs less than ap-30 ap-29 ap-31 and costs MORE than ap-45
(every higher spinning/performing fan you listed cost more than the ap-15 but the ap-45 costs less...)
I understand what you are saying about supply/demand however when I asked if you could post any proof i was hoping you had hardcore solid facts from a website or something, because as i said before, we are merely debating our "logic".
So when you quote what I did to give you an example of my perception of things, it just seems like an insult, because your claiming my logic has fallacy and your logic does help prove my logic right.
So until we can find out if all these fans cost the same
it's safe to say either either they do cost all the same or my "fallacy" logic as you call it is true and something changed in these fans. Edited by INCREDIBLEHULK - 5/18/13 at 6:40pm