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Though you took the time to explain in detail what I already said in a very brief outline, it was far too technical Mushroomboy...

Keep it simple silly.. (KISS) biggrin.gif

Muah!
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post #72 of 79
Quote:
Originally Posted by _GTech View Post

What kind of settings & resolution are you playing BF3 on?

I skipped Llano and am going to go Trinity with dual graphics.

Ask these people

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=BF3+Llano&oq=BF3+Llano&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=807l5157l0l5396l9l9l0l0l0l0l65l411l9l9l0
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Originally Posted by PoopaScoopa View Post

Except when you run 90% of games like SC2/WoW and get gimped FPS because of the IPC bottleneck. Stick with Intel CPUs and discreet graphics cards.

No thanks...

Let me break it down for you tongue.gif

650 bucks to play sc2 and wow on high settings with cpu OC to 3ghz that most likely performs better then a i5 sandybridge with a g540m in wow and sc2 for the same price, or your misinformed post of what is better?
I know for a fact my old asus republic of gamers laptop ( g60jx) with first gen i5 430m with a nvidia 360gts is slower in gaming while consuming more heat then my Llano laptop tongue.gif
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ofcourse Trinity is better..coz of HD 7000 series IGP \m/

but it don't have L3 cache :/
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You know something is wrong when people start comparing CPUs by their intergrated graphics and not the actual CPU performance.
    
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No, it's not. HD3300 is around the same speed/a bit slower and it's roughly equal to an x1900Pro in my testing,

In raw numbers, HD 3000 looks good. But have you seen the image quality tests of HD 3000? Absolutely terrible textures, regardless of settings. And also, the SB chipset is incapable of playing 23.972FPS video (this is the standard framerate for movies). You can't even play a Blu-Ray with HD 3000 graphics properly! Dropping 1 frame every 40 seconds is absolutely unacceptable. I'd leave a theatre and ask for a refund if half as many frames were dropped.

Really, it comes down to: image quality first, then performance. If you have integrated graphics that can play Metro 2033 on high, but the textures are non-existant and the AA is junk, what's the point? That defeats the purpose of calling the graphics level "high"; you're putting out lower-quality frames >30% slower than Llano integrated's higher-quality frames. And that's the real problem.
 
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In raw numbers, HD 3000 looks good. But have you seen the image quality tests of HD 3000? Absolutely terrible textures, regardless of settings. And also, the SB chipset is incapable of playing 23.972FPS video (this is the standard framerate for movies). You can't even play a Blu-Ray with HD 3000 graphics properly! Dropping 1 frame every 40 seconds is absolutely unacceptable. I'd leave a theatre and ask for a refund if half as many frames were dropped.
Really, it comes down to: image quality first, then performance. If you have integrated graphics that can play Metro 2033 on high, but the textures are non-existant and the AA is junk, what's the point? That defeats the purpose of calling the graphics level "high"; you're putting out lower-quality frames >30% slower than Llano integrated's higher-quality frames. And that's the real problem.

Definitely, I was just meaning in pure performance though.
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but it don't have L3 cache :/

Not much of a loss though. If the first two caches are fast enough, that is.
   
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post #79 of 79
Things to keep in mind is that SB iGPU only supports DX 10.1.

IB iGPU now supports DX 11, so the gaps is getting narrower. No doubt that Trinity will be still ahead of IB.
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