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Don't do that, not for PC monitors'. PC monitors' settings increase gamma and so does TFT central's ICC profile. Wouldn't make sense to combine them.
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Don't do that, not for PC monitors'. PC monitors' settings increase gamma and so does TFT central's ICC profile. Wouldn't make sense to combine them.
Oh, okay, I'll try disable the ICC profile and see the different.
I thought my website, rmvb looks good, naturally compares to my old 19" side by side.
I have advantage with black equalizer in BF3, arma2, mw3. I'm living with that biggrin.gif
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So how do I know if TFTCentral's ICC profile took effect on my screen? Will that profile change the settings of my screen? I don't understand what it does.

The calibration in the OP shows that the picture mode is set to "standard" for TFTCentral and PC Monitor. But when I save these calibration settings to Gamer1 and Gamer2, respectively, buttons the picture mode is set to Gamer1 and Gamer2. Does that mean Gamer1 and Gamer2 has the Standard picture mode saved in them?

How about for the Game Mode Launchers downloaded in BenQ's website, do I need to use TFTCentral's ICC profile for that?
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Don't do that, not for PC monitors'. PC monitors' settings increase gamma and so does TFT central's ICC profile. Wouldn't make sense to combine them.

That is correct. Our settings are specifically designed to work 'universally' without ICC profiling.

Our thinking behind this....There isn't really much point in using ICC profiles if you are gaming or watching movies as many such applications will ignore or misinterpet the profile. If significant adjustments have to be made in the profile then you stand to lose significant colour range and contrast which isn't really worth it for entertainment use. And people often think that using somebody elses settings or ICC progile will give them super colour accuracy like some sort of magic wand. Unfortunately each individual unit of a particular model is different and Nvidia and AMD GPUs are too. We realise most 'entertainment' users don't own a colorimeter or other hardware calibration device and like to keep that in mind.

Another aspect to consider is that the colorimeter/spectrophotometer or what have you bases the settings on a small square in the centre of the screen. There is so much variation beyond that on a TN panel monitor. Coupled with subjective preferences such as greater vibrancy over accuracy when gaming; it is better to adjust things to suit your own tastes. What I would recommend is trying the PC Monitors settings and TFT Central profiles (individually - use the values provided by TFT Central for their profile) but don't be afraid to experiment and find your own sweet spots.
Edited by PCM2 - 5/28/14 at 1:28am
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So how do I know if TFTCentral's ICC profile took effect on my screen? Will that profile change the settings of my screen? I don't understand what it does.
The calibration in the OP shows that the picture mode is set to "standard" for TFTCentral and PC Monitor. But when I save these calibration settings to Gamer1 and Gamer2, respectively, buttons the picture mode is set to Gamer1 and Gamer2. Does that mean Gamer1 and Gamer2 has the Standard picture mode saved in them?
How about for the Game Mode Launchers downloaded in BenQ's website, do I need to use TFTCentral's ICC profile for that?

To add to what I said in the previous post. ICC profiles make changes on the GPU level (to the LUTs or Look-Up Tables) to alter the information being sent to the monitor. They are specific adjustments to the image that start from a given point. That given point is one particlar monitor set up in a certain way. If you use TFT Central's settings then you should set the monitor up as they did. The profile is only designed to work in standard mode and they also have made changes to the colour temperature and brightness. If things look no different then there is either no need to use the profile or you simply haven't activated it properly. If things look wrong then your monitor and system is too different to TFT Central's test rig for the profile to work well and you shouldn't use it. Again this comes back to the important point of trying things for yourself and going by your own eye and preferences rather than what the reviewers like or use smile.gif.
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To add to what I said in the previous post. ICC profiles make changes on the GPU level (to the LUTs or Look-Up Tables) to alter the information being sent to the monitor. They are specific adjustments to the image that start from a given point. That given point is one particlar monitor set up in a certain way. If you use TFT Central's settings then you should set the monitor up as they did. The profile is only designed to work in standard mode and they also have made changes to the colour temperature and brightness. If things look no different then there is either no need to use the profile or you simply haven't activated it properly. If things look wrong then your monitor and system is too different to TFT Central's test rig for the profile to work well and you shouldn't use it. Again this comes back to the important point of trying things for yourself and going by your own eye and preferences rather than what the reviewers like or use smile.gif.

Well yes, but for example I want to save PCMonitor's settings to buton1 of the S Switch of my monitor, that is possible by saving it to Gamer1, right? And as I've mentioned, pressing button1 in the S Switch will automatically change Picture Mode to Gamer1. With that, since I saved the settings (wherein picture mode is set to standard) to Gamer1, do I still get the effect of Standard Picture Mode even though Gamer1 is selected as picture mode? Did I make myself clear on this? I think not but I don't know how to explain it better frown.gif
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Ah right I understand you now! If you save your customised/calibrated 'Standard Mode' settings as 'Gamer1' then this does become a customised 'Standard Mode', yes.
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Ah right I understand you now! If you save your customised/calibrated 'Standard Mode' settings as 'Gamer1' then this does become a customised 'Standard Mode', yes.

As said here, the Gamer profiles adopt the settings of whatever mode you were using when you saved the settings to that button. The Gamer profiles can be a tweaked version of any of the factory included modes.

I fixed the link to your review.
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As said here, the Gamer profiles adopt the settings of whatever mode you were using when you saved the settings to that button. The Gamer profiles can be a tweaked version of any of the factory included modes.
I fixed the link to your review.

Great, thanks for the information!

So to sum it all up, we only use the ICC profile in the OP for TFTCentral's config settings. For PCM's and the Game Mode Launchers from BenQ, we use the default ICC profile, correct?
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Great, thanks for the information!
So to sum it all up, we only use the ICC profile in the OP for TFTCentral's config settings. For PCM's and the Game Mode Launchers from BenQ, we use the default ICC profile, correct?

Yes, except game mode can be used with the ICC profile (as the ICC profile is disabled ingame).
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