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what is your current rig? are you running an am3+ mobo?
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i bought it as an enthusiast pretty much i bout the highest performing parts i could. and yes it is the new lga2011, but unfortunately no its not dual processor(i would have if i could have). i didnt build this pc with anything in mind. just needed a way to make my tax check dissappear. with nothing in mind i though i would build it with everything in mind. i dont find it money wasted because now i'm pretty sure i shouldn't have to upgrade for a loooooong time.

ps i dont know why you wouldnt be able to see it. i saved it.
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true, but no matter what he's an idiot for spending 5K on a rig, period.
you don't need to spend that much to max current games, even on multiple monitors.

PCs do much more than gaming...
And just because you make a foolish decision doesn't mean you are a fool; if he has the money, he can spend it as he pleases.
If you're going to call someone a fool for spending a lot of money of something-in reality-he doesn't need, do realize this website is full of enthusiasts who have a love for hardware and tech, and are spending grands on the latest and greatest even if it is overkill.
F@H, intensive rendering, workstations, etc. benefit from the extra horsepower and threads of multi-core CPUs, so if you are looking for a powerful machine, you're going to end up spending a lot (several grand in some cases).
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thank you people don't just build gaming machines. there are other things that require lots of horsepower like running multiple virtual machines, extreme graphics rendering. or like me just for the hell of it.
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back to the topic(bulldozer series). if you were to have one of these i think they would be good for virtual machines now that i think about it. virtual machines run on specific cores. which is what this processor is designed for. maybe amd can do some better work with the opetron using this technology. but for graphics rendering i dont see it happening, when rendering you use all cores at one time, this processor is made for running 1-4 cores at a time and simply ramping up the frequency on those cores. in a server running multiple vm's i would like this processor but for rendering i would stick with intel or a phenom II. you cant beat the all core performance of the new i7 or the hexacore phenom II
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I upgraded from a Phenom X4 955 that topped out at 3.8 GHz and upgrade to a FX-8150 currently at 4.6 GHz and it's a little faster in almost every situation (unless all you do is browse the web, listen to music, and play older games, in which case an Athlon X3 is more than enough).
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I upgraded from a Phenom X4 955 that topped out at 3.8 GHz and upgrade to a FX-8150 currently at 4.6 GHz and it's a little faster in almost every situation (unless all you do is browse the web, listen to music, and play older games, in which case an Athlon X3 is more than enough).

i have no dought that is true, even for extreme gaming most games only use a max of 4 cores therefore amd's selective core system works good while gaming. but in overall performance these processors fail to compete. like when benchmarking you use all of 8 cores at one time. the processor is not made for this so it falls behind.
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I upgraded from a Phenom X4 955 that topped out at 3.8 GHz and upgrade to a FX-8150 currently at 4.6 GHz and it's a little faster in almost every situation (unless all you do is browse the web, listen to music, and play older games, in which case an Athlon X3 is more than enough).

i have no dought that is true, even for extreme gaming most games only use a max of 4 cores therefore amd's selective core system works good while gaming. but in overall performance these processors fail to compete. like when benchmarking you use all of 8 cores at one time. the processor is not made for this so it falls behind.

At stock settings, the processor will simply go in to turbo boost mode when using less cores, doesn't mean that the processor isn't designed to run all 8. It just means that upping the frequency when not all cores are being used still stays within the TDP.

During benchmarking though, most people will disable the Turbo features and running all 8 cores highly overclocking does not have any negative effect on the processor. Seeing as you can easily get over 1 GHz overclocks with Bulldozer shows that the only reason they kept stock clocks so low was to keep the power consumption down for the general public who will be running these processors.



In overall performance, when overclocked against other overclocked processors, Bulldozer tends to start to shine, albeit only in certain benchmarks can it best the i7-2600k, for the most part it is slightly above the 5-2500k. It's just the damn power consumption and heat that throw it's efficiency off and make it look less attractive then Intels.
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i have no dought its a good processor. what i'm trying to say is that it is not made for a spread load. amd admits to that. it is good for modern applications that only use a few cores. but for future applications that use all 8. it will not do so good. it was a good way for amd to say hey we have an 8 core processor that will overclock to 8 ghz in our lab. nothing wrong with that, but it still cant keep up with most intel quads let alone the new hexacore i7. this is also not bad. you get what you pay for i spent 1700 dollars on my i7. at a little over 200. the new series is worth it.
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Is it your "Ha Ha Beat This" machine? You got six 512Gb Solid State Drives and 4-way 7970s? You're already over $4k in just hard drives. Unless you can get the parts really cheap or you goofed up on the rig builder. thumb.gif

Ha Ha Beat This
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