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nvidia/cuda or radeon/openCL replacement for cheapo vegas video editing machine?

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My old slow video card finally blew out. I need a new one for my phenom x6 today.
I'm going through 1x 1080 35 inch HDMI and 1x DVI 19inch main monitor.
My mobo is has 2x 2.0 pci express and no onboard video.
I currently have Vegas 10 and plan to upgrade to 11 64bit with the latest cuda support.
No gaming, just lots of idle web-browsing and 1080 movie watching, with sporadic 1080 large video rendering/encoding.
The monitors would be on for long stretches of time.
The faster the previews and renders the better for me, but I still want to spend as little as possible;
especially since better cards for the latest Vegas seem to be in the works.

Here's what I found locally so far with what I think meets my cheapo price point and decent Sony Vegas requirements:
ZOTAC GeForce GT 520 1GB DDR3 PCI-Express 2.0 HDMI DVI VGA Graphics Card ZT-50603-10L
http://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-PCI-Express-Graphics-ZT-50603-10L/dp/B0052UNZG4
Core Clock Speed 810MHz
Shader Clock 1620MHz
CUDA Processors 48
Max Monitors Supported 2
Video Memory 1024MB
Memory Type DDR3
Memory Clock Speed 1333MHz (2666MHz Effective)
Memory Bus 64-bit
Memory Bandwidth 14.4GB/sec
OpenGL Support OpenGL 4.1
DirectX Support DirectX 11

$10 cheaper Sapphire Radeon HD 6450 100322L 1GB DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 Video Card
http://www.excaliberpc.com/604802/sapphire-radeon-hd-6450-100322l.html
Core Clock Speed 625MHz
Shader Clock 1250MHz
Stream Processors 160
Max Monitors Supported 2
Video Memory 1024MB
Memory Type DDR3
Memory Clock Speed 667MHz (1334MHz Effective)
Memory Bus 64-bit
OpenGL Support OpenGL 4.1
DirectX Support DirectX 11

The specs I copied+pasted are generally what I've been looking for in comparing cards. If there is something else I
should be looking into please let me know. I'm still not sure which clock I need to look at when comparing the
number of processors and how much faster they might render. I don't know what the math would be to find out if
the cuda with 48 processors is faster or slower than tthe Radeon's 160 depending on their clocks. Its really hard to
tell which would be faster on Cuda/OpenCL supported Vegas rendering and preview specifically too.

I got this from Sony's website

Supported cards for GPU-acceleration
To take full advantage of the GPU-acceleration in Vegas Pro 11, you will need a supported card with at least 512 MB of GPU memory.

NVIDIA
Requires a CUDA-enabled GPU and driver 270.xx or later. GeForce GPUs:
GeForce GTX 4xx Series or higher (or GeForce GT 2xx Series or higher with driver 285.62 or later).
Quadro GPUs: Quadro 600 or higher (or Quadro FX 1700 or higher with driver 285.62 or later).
NVIDIA recommends NVIDIA Quadro for professional applications and recommends use of the latest boards based on the Fermi architecture.

AMD/ATI
Requires an OpenCL-enabled GPU and Catalyst driver 11.7 or later with a Radeon HD 57xx or higher GPU. If using a FirePro GPU, FirePro unified driver 8.85 or later is required.

Thanks!
-c
Edited by fe2cruz - 3/17/12 at 9:58am
    
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and this??

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-GALAXY-Technology-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTS-250-25SGF6HX1RUV-Video-Graphics-Card-/290660245317?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item43acb35f45
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Originally Posted by PontiacGTX View Post

and this??NEW-GALAXY-Technology-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTS-250 1GB

After reading the lengthy article from this post, even though the GT520 might have a nice clock
speed and 1GB of memory it still only has 48 cuda cores & DDR3 memory, but the higher core
clock will use a lot more power and generate more heat too without really increasing my video
rendering or preview speeds that much more than software acceleration with just my phenom
ram and harddrives. The GT250 has lots of power hungry shader processors and a nice core
clock but it won't really give much video rendering performance either since it too only has DDR3
memory. It seems like DDR5, 1GB memory plus 96 cuda cores in the $60/300PSU range is much
better than no performance gains on similar $60 or less cards that might even need 500+PSU.
More power usage for no performance gain.

Locally everyone seems to only have Radeons with DDR5 less than $60. All the nvidia cards
locally are $100 and up overpriced. I may have to just get something like this GT340
and wait for it to ship instead. Or does someone think any old cheap Radeon will do since
the performance gains are really so negligible in the sub $200 video card range?
    
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