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Originally Posted by Mr Frosty View Post

GTX 680 SLI Performance frame rates from article :
GT1 : 87.81fps
GT2 : 86.36fps
GT3 : 114.47fps
GT4 : 53.94fps
7970 CF performance frame rates from Denim-187 :
GT1 : 89.86fps
GT2 : 103.61fps
GT3 : 126.62fps
GT4 : 62.51fps
Percentage 7970 CF is faster then GTX680 SLI :
GT1 : 2.3%
GT2 : 16.6%
GT3 : 9.6%
GT4 : 13.71%
Average 7970 CF is faster then GTX680 SLI : 10.55%
7970 CF overclock : 26% ( stock 925Mhz, overclock 1250Mhz )
GTX680 SLI overclock : 12.53% ( stock 1006Mhz, overclock 1150Mhz )
13.47% extra overclock on the 7970's for an extra 10.55% so bringing the GTX680's overclock 26% and it would be 2-3% faster then the 7970's.
But you could argue that the faster CPU used the GTX680 results could add an extra few percent due to being able to push the GPU usage harder.
Basically Nvdia fans have waited months for what seems to be a card that offers next to no performance improvement over the 7970.

This numbers don't mean Jack to me ,AMD have bean improving their drivers for the past 2+ months ,lets not forget this ,the deciding factor will the drivers ,so whoever will come with the best set of drivers will win ..end of story
    
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sounds like you are talking about yourself ,i own both AMD and NVidia and don't care much about your E-PEEN i want the card that works 24/7 with minimum headache,some of you should grow up rolleyes.gif
EDIT; and yes i do prefer Nvidia cards for that matter

I've run every matey, from both camps and I've never had any issues with anything.

And I meen NO issues at all...
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Oh man. This again.
7800GS/GT/GTX, 7900GS/GT/GTX/GTO/GX2, 7950GT/ECT./ECT.
8800GS/GT/GTX/Ultra/GTS 320/GTS 640 (9000 series included)
270, 280/275, 285
460SE/TI, 560TI/448/SE, GTX465
The 800 dollar 8800U
There's no limit to the acronyms or numbers I could think of to put at the end of 68.

So you are saying a $550 Nvidia card is not their high end card when they are almost 4 months late this generation already? I could understand completely if the released it for $350, then I would say it is a mid range card.
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So you are saying a $550 Nvidia card is not their high end card when they are almost 4 months late this generation already? I could understand completely if the released it for $350, then I would say it is a mid range card.

Sure. If you've got a 'mid range' card that is on par with the competitors flagship, are you going to sell it 200$ less out of the goodness of your corporate heart? Because NV is a company and money is the bottom line, I would say no. If they had a past of collecting donations for starving children in Africa, I might say yes.
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Sure. If you've got a 'mid range' card that is on par with the competitors flagship, are you going to sell it 200$ less out of the goodness of your corporate heart? Because NV is a company and money is the bottom line, I would say no. If they had a past of collecting donations for starving children in Africa, I might say yes.
DING DING we have a winner. Anyone who think Nvidia or any other hardware company is running a charity is so wrong.
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Don't post this, cloud777 will have a heart attack thumb.gif (kidding cloud )
No problem. I couldn`t care less if the CF is better at games since I only use single GPU systems anyway wink.gif
Edited by Cloudfire777 - 3/18/12 at 4:01pm
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aww come on. You are taking the word of a company who had a "working version" of Fermi which had woodscrews. They also said it was 40-50% faster than the HD5800 series at the time. It turned out to be such an embarrassment they had the 5 series out within 6 months was it?

Oh, I know the magnitude of NV's marketing division's deceit, but I don't believe that such a small die + 195w TDP + 2x 6pin power connectors + 256 bit memory bus ='s the end all. Fermi proved that people are accepting of even higher power GPU's in comparison to Tesla, you bet NV is going to dance along that new-found line and fill the current gap. The size of the die alone is enough to make me believe that this isn't all they've got.
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Boy the whole naming scheme has people confused and it's boiling down to symantecs.

Some consider it mid-range because it's a 256 bit card yet performing at AMD's high end 384 bit level. So the architecture is mid-level but being aligned to compete at high end against AMD. High end name for a GK104 where thier current 560 board is what's confusing people.

It can be seen either way as high end competition or mid level architecture and are right.

Nvidia still has room to grow perfomance even further with the 320 bit GK107 and 384 bit GK110 spectrum and will come int the form of a 700 series's. Next GK104 series's you'll see this 680 be a refresh and be called a 760.

I'm sure when AMD comes out with thier 8000 refresh series card Nvidia will be out in time to compete next line in December. Funny because first run of Fermi Nvidia was late and on time with second run 500 line. History seems to be repeating itself with Kepler.

For the record it's been 2 months 9 days since AMD released 7970. wink.gif
     
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I don't think Nvidia has a monster GPU just waiting. There were several reports of massive problems with 28nm yields on Nvidia's end. Chances are they just simply coudln't make the card work in a reasonable time frame and had to p ut something out. If the power consumption rumors are true then that's pretty impressive but going of these 3dmark scores the performance isn't *nearly* as impressive as we were all led to believe. My guess is they had problems with their yield and scrapped the card while simultaneously scaling the 104 up as far as they could. The result is the 680GTX we are about to see.

Was not that long ago people were saying the 680 would be 1.5X the 7970.
    
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I don't think Nvidia has a monster GPU just waiting. There were several reports of massive problems with 28nm yields on Nvidia's end. Chances are they just simply coudln't make the card work in a reasonable time frame and had to p ut something out. If the power consumption rumors are true then that's pretty impressive but going of these 3dmark scores the performance isn't *nearly* as impressive as we were all led to believe. My guess is they had problems with their yield and scrapped the card while simultaneously scaling the 104 up as far as they could. The result is the 680GTX we are about to see.
Was not that long ago people were saying the 680 would be 1.5X the 7970.

GK100 was more or less confirmed to be scrapped due to interconnect problems that could not be rectified, so they definitely don't have anything waiting in the wings for imminent release.

GK110 will be a dual GK104 board, and GK112 is what they're working on for release late this year or early next. Calling the gk104 mid range is pretty ridiculous because the successor is a long ways off and not in ES status yet...it is their high end and flagship for now.
Edited by xoleras - 3/18/12 at 4:31pm
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I don't think Nvidia has a monster GPU just waiting. There were several reports of massive problems with 28nm yields on Nvidia's end. Chances are they just simply coudln't make the card work in a reasonable time frame and had to p ut something out. If the power consumption rumors are true then that's pretty impressive but going of these 3dmark scores the performance isn't *nearly* as impressive as we were all led to believe. My guess is they had problems with their yield and scrapped the card while simultaneously scaling the 104 up as far as they could. The result is the 680GTX we are about to see.
Was not that long ago people were saying the 680 would be 1.5X the 7970.

Your welcome to your opinion. Regardless Nvidia does have a card to compete with 7970 and I'm sure by next series will be ready for refresh.

One can view it like you do or why come out that strong if you don't need to. It's just business. Just like AMD pricing this series can't blame them. What ever the reason is why they didn't come out is a moot point when they're going to be competitive still.

A lot of rumors and false info has been dished out for two months now. People have cherry picked what they felt they belived. Nvidia did a great job staying tight lipped and hard launch only. We should all know soon enough.
     
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