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I'm willing to bet the gains came from Llano, not Bulldozer. ( 1st post in this thread wink.gif )

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Good good. Now, where are those Piledriver 20pts cinebench results ?
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If you are considering AMD having console deals a foregone conclusion I got news for you. Almost every software dev and engineer on Beyond3d is 99% sure all three console manufacturers are going with PowerPC CPU and AMD GPU.

Like I said it is not a forgone conclusion at all. The people that know what they are talking about certainly don't want AMD or Intel anywhere near console CPUs.
    
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All these people moaning about Bulldozer as if desktop CPU's are worth a crap to any company. The world doesn't revolve around you, you close minded tards. AMD GAINED marketshare. Learn how to think for yourselves and not just regurgitate the mindless crap you read over and over. It doesn't take a genius to see that Bulldozer is meant to play a specific part in an APU and not "crush Intel". Welcome to the real world where a multi-billion dollar company's decisions do not revolve around your fantasy.
    
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No, you're mistaken.
IPS can be brought up through IPC or the frequency, as you said. And going from 4.8 to 5.3 does in fact make a difference. Just plug the numbers into your equation and see. The latencies are a flaw of its execution, and a major weakness of this generation, not a part of the bulldozer design. The longer pipeline IS a part of the design, and is not an inherent problem.

There are several ways to design a cpu/engine/whatever - it's up to the company to make sure it works. At the end of the day, they released a mediocre product. If it wasn't successful you can't really defend the approach. History is full of "almost really good" products.
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Going from 4.8 to 5.3 would be a ~10% difference. That's pretty significant if you ask me.

Not that significant when you're already 10-15% slower clock for clock than your previous generation. That won't even be enough to compete with Sandy Bridge - yet alone Ivy Bridge. All you did was bump the mhz without addressing the other design flaws that are causing the mediocre performance. It sounds good on paper but realistically you'll end up with a 5Ghz chip that barely beats an i5 2400.

If you noticed the few times BD did manage a small lead were programs that loved more cores. The fact that people only focus on the FX-8150 is an indictment of the architecture. You shouldn't have to keep comparing your flagship 8-core to your 6-core previous generation or Intel's 4-core i5 2500k just to lose in half the benchmarks anyways.
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That doesn't mean people can't discuss why and how AMD gained market share.

Fixed that for you smile.gif
    
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You shouldn't have to keep comparing your flagship 8-core to your 6-core previous generation or Intel's 4-core i5 2500k just to lose in half the benchmarks anyways.

In my opinion AMD decision to call their "hyperthreading" a "core" is marketing. For me it seems more like a 4 true core ship plus "hyperthreading amd way". So it should be no major surprise that it loses to a "true 6 core" in some benchmarks that make use of that floating point unit.
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In my opinion AMD decision to call their "hyperthreading" a "core" is marketing. For me it seems more like a 4 true core ship plus "hyperthreading amd way". So it should be no major surprise that it loses to a "true 6 core" in some benchmarks that make use of that floating point unit.

That's an interesting point...

The FX-8150 was still $50 more than the 2500k and $100 more than the 1090T. Even after all the bad press it's still $250 while the 2500k is $220 on NewEgg and $180 at MicroCenter - that blows my mind. But regardless of performance Bulldozer had the best marketing I've ever seen for a chip. The flashy box design, the world-record OC promo, the gaudy OC numbers and high core count... Consider the performance they offered for the price it's amazing people actually bought it.
    
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That's an interesting point...
The FX-8150 was still $50 more than the 2500k and $100 more than the 1090T. Even after all the bad press it's still $250 while the 2500k is $220 on NewEgg and $180 at MicroCenter - that blows my mind. But regardless of performance Bulldozer had the best marketing I've ever seen for a chip. The flashy box design, the world-record OC promo, the gaudy OC numbers and high core count... Consider the performance they offered for the price it's amazing people actually bought it.

You do know that some people do more then just game on their computers right? Some people even use Linux.
    
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woooo go AMD!
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BD does have 8 physical cores though. It's really not like hyperthreading at all which just maximizes extra CPU cycles basically.
    
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