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Ok so here the deal so far, just finished building a new PC for myself and you culd say I am dealing with a few problems... First I will go ahead and explain the system:

Intel 3930k CPU with EK Supreme HF Waterblock
MSI Big Bang Xpower II Motherboard
32 GB or Mushkin Ram (2133 Mhz 1.65v,9-11-10-28, model number 993997)
3x MSI Radeon 7970's with EK waterblock and EK serial crossfire bridge
PSU is a Enermax 1200w Platinum Certified
Reservior/pump is XSPC dual bay with Alphacool 665 pump set @ 4.5 speed
Loop Order is as follows:

XSPC Res/Pump-->XSPC EX240 Rad-->3x 7970-->3930k--->XSPC EX360 Rad-->Res

Both Rads are using Phobya 1500rpm fans in push/pull which in turn are hooked up to a lamptron fan controller which is turned up to the max
Tubing is 1/2x3/4 with bitspower compression fittings
All of this is in a NZXT Switch 810 case
Now the problems..
First CPU temps-the range from 30-36...idiling...according to realtemp, this is way too high yes? I do have some faulty fans 3 to be exact, 2 on the top of the 240 rad are out and one on the bottom of the 360 rad is out, i have new ones coming from frozen cpu on tuesday, could this be causing such High Temps?

2nd problem....overclocking, I cant get a single thing to work in the bios, the memory is only reading 1333 mhz, each time i set the voltage to 1.65, try and enable xmp, or set the speed myself, it locks up and im forced to restore the bios to default settings. I ran memtest86 and it showed no problems, but this is going on with every option, not just memory, i cant even turn speedstep off, edit any without the bios freezing up, and then telling me i need to restore the defaults, about the only thing i can do is set memory timings to there correct numbers, even the OC genie option fails and demands a CMOS reset.

So ya any help would be greatly appreciated. If there is more info you need to know, please ask, I really need to get this sorted.

Thanks so much,

Mike
Edited by Mikefx - 3/18/12 at 5:41pm
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I'd change the loop on this order:

XSPC res > pump > Radiator EX360 > CPU > Radiator EX240 > 3x7970 > Res
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Is that idle temp measurement overclocked or not? From what I can tell (not owning that chip but having googled a little) that's a reasonable temp for an overclocked 3930k. If it's not overclocked then it's still very possible if you have high ambient in your room. It's always possible of course that you didn't get a good spread with your TIM and might need to remount the CPU block--what thermal paste are you using?

Broken fans would show up by your loop heating up more quickly and settling on a higher equilibrium temp than if they were all working. Although if I have it right that's only three out of ten fans so I don't think the effect will be all that extreme. You would be better off though removing the dead fans rather than leaving them in place since all they are doing is preventing air from flowing freely through the rad.

Regarding the BIOS issues... did you reset CMOS? Can you get anything working correctly at stock settings?
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Originally Posted by Mikefx View Post

Loop Order is as follows:
XSPC Res/Pump-->XSPC EX240 Rad-->3x 7970-->3930k--->XSPC EX360 Rad-->Res
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Originally Posted by saint19 View Post

I'd change the loop on this order:
XSPC res > pump > Radiator EX360 > CPU > Radiator EX240 > 3x7970 > Res

Good point, you have three GPU's generating heat that then flows onto your CPU... changing that might knock it down a degree or two.
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Well..8 RAM sticks.. wow..Umm..Forget xmp..maybe your RAM doesn't have the profiles on them..set the timings/voltage/ram speed manually
May need to loosen timings...chances are..one of those sticks isn't going to do it right..
Will need to add vtt/vccio voltage..(start @ 1.12-1.15)eh..nm on that..Haven't researched that on that chip..eh..just bump it up
from whatever it is some..Find out what the max is there.
 
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@saint19 and threephi: I suppose rerouting is possible and wouldnt be to troublesome, I was under the impression that the fluid tempature is always equalized no mater the loop order
I have included a pic so you can see what im working with and what you think:
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@threephi I used the arctic mx-4 that came with the EK water block, a little tube of it, i thought i got it on there pretty good. Also the bios stuff, ya everything is set back to the defaults, like i said out the only thing I have been able to get to post is the memory timings themselves, everything else freezes the bios, but then again im a total noob at overclocking, i just figured getting the motherboard to recognize the kind of memory speed im using wouldf be a good place to start.


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@saint19 and threephi: I suppose rerouting is possible and wouldnt be to troublesome, I was under the impression that the fluid tempature is always equalized no mater the loop order
I have included a pic so you can see what im working with and what you think:
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@threephi I used the arctic mx-4 that came with the EK water block, a little tube of it, i thought i got it on there pretty good. Also the bios stuff, ya everything is set back to the defaults, like i said out the only thing I have been able to get to post is the memory timings themselves, everything else freezes the bios, but then again im a total noob at overclocking, i just figured getting the motherboard to recognize the kind of memory speed im using wouldf be a good place to start.
Mike

Your 3-way crossfire produce a lot of heat that's not totally dissipated but the radiator, the CPU in that loop produce less heat than the 3x7970, so, using the EX360 for cool the CPU and adding the EX240 after the CPU will send H2O to the 3-Way crossfire more "cool" than the current one.

With that change, your CPU should change from run to the current 30-36ºC at 20-25ºC.
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Your 3-way crossfire produce a lot of heat that's not totally dissipated but the radiator, the CPU in that loop produce less heat than the 3x7970, so, using the EX360 for cool the CPU and adding the EX240 after the CPU will send H2O to the 3-Way crossfire more "cool" than the current one.
With that change, your CPU should change from run to the current 30-36ºC at 20-25ºC.

Dear lord, 10-11 dt with one radiator change?!?!?!

OP, take 263w of heat to raise water 1c at 1gpm. That mean that the most your vid cards are raising the water in the loop before the cpu is approx 3c, not 10.
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@threepi ya this is idle temp at stock speeds

@saint alright I gotcha, guess its time to place another frozen cpu order for more tubing and coolant...sigh..after 2 weeks of work on this, but thanks for your help, I will reroute it as you say

Oh Also if this helps, I forgot to post GPU temps, according to MSI afterburner as of right now they are running idle at 28 C
Edited by Mikefx - 3/18/12 at 6:25pm
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Dear lord, 10-11 dt with one radiator change?!?!?!
OP, take 263w of heat to raise water 1c at 1gpm. That mean that the most your vid cards are raising the water in the loop before the cpu is approx 3c, not 10.

My CPU (X6 1090T @ 3.8GHz) produces much more heat than those 3930K, so, I'm just doing a little approximation since I'm using a XSPC 360 radiator with only TWO CoolerMaster fan on it.
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