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My Friend's $800 Software Editing Rig (opinion needed on parts chosen)

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So basically I listened undecided, if I should cry or laugh (mostly cry) at my friend who told me how he was trying to burn a dvd, convert the format of a video and edit a song, all at the same time. Now, that doesn't seem like such a big deal but he was trying (key word is trying) to do this on his Intel dual core HP laptop running Vista x64..... (a little part of me died that day). The end result? The video took 4 hours to convert and came out with errors and he got nothing done.

In short, I've been trying to get my friend to build a rig for at least the past year. Where I need help is I'm not sure if the AMD FX-8120 or the Intel i5-2500K would be the better choice for him for what he does? I've looked at multiple threads on here debating the topic of which cpu is better for what and I only got more confused due to the fact that I mostly use my PC to game and my friend's needs differ from that.

Also, to add to the indecision, the difference between the two builds in terms of cost of the mobo + the cpu is $2 dollars....

Lastly, I'm not sure if the Intel motherboard is good (never used ASRock before) relative to the Gigabyte motherboard (a brand I've used before) if I were to go the AMD route.


AMD Build:

Cpu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103961

Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128514


or


Intel Build

Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271

Cpu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072


Rest of build (identical for either build)

SSD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226236

Ram http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231455

Gpu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102967

PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020&cm_sp=Cat_Power_Supplies-_-Spotlight-_-17-139-020

Cpu cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099

Side note, he'll probably get into gaming on the PC a bit but the main priority is software editing and formatting capabilities.


Thank you for your time!
Edited by AddictedtoPC - 3/18/12 at 7:54pm
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If they are going to be doing video editing I wouldnt recommend a SSD due to large amount of writing.

And if you overclock it at all for him these sticks will be better as they overclock quite well for the price and size of the dimms.

The Intel system would be better due to less power used and can be easily overclocked. And in gaming the 2500k kills the fx8150, granted for video encoding the 2500k stands no chance I prefer the lower power usage as from several reviews only thing the 2500k is really beat in is multithreaded apps like trans-coding video, but for audio the 2500k would be faster since its a lot stronger for single threaded apps versus the FX8150.

Which the 2600k would be the best bet if they could afford the price of it since the Hyper threading does help quite a bit when it comes to trans-coding as well. Other then that your choice for everything else is pretty good.
 
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If they are going to be doing video editing I wouldnt recommend a SSD due to large amount of writing.

Okay thanks, I'll look into getting a Hard drive then as well.
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And if you overclock it at all for him these sticks will be better as they overclock quite well for the price and size of the dimms.

The ram I picked is at 1866MHz and timings of 9-10-9-28; isn't that fast enough relative to price vs. performance? Not trying to argue, I'm just confused how that ram is better at timings of 11 with MHz speed of 1600?

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The Intel system would be better due to less power used and can be easily overclocked. And in gaming the 2500k kills the fx8150, granted for video encoding the 2500k stands no chance I prefer the lower power usage as from several reviews only thing the 2500k is really beat in is multithreaded apps like trans-coding video, but for audio the 2500k would be faster since its a lot stronger for single threaded apps versus the FX8150.
Which the 2600k would be the best bet if they could afford the price of it since the Hyper threading does help quite a bit when it comes to trans-coding as well. Other then that your choice for everything else is pretty good.

I would build him a rig with a 2600K but the budget limit doesn't allow it so it comes down to either the i5-2500k or the FX-8120. So what you're saying is that the 8 cores on the fx-8120 would be utilized enough to where they'd be beneficial to my friend's usage (video encoding, ect.)?

I mean I understand that the i5 is stellar on games relative to the 8120 but that isn't his main need right now when it comes to needing a new rig. As for power, I don't think that's much of an issue with an adequate power supply and it kind of makes sense that it eats more power (4 cores vs. 8 cores).

I'm honestly leaning towards the FX-8120 right now I just want to see a few more people's perspectives on the matter.
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Okay thanks, I'll look into getting a Hard drive then as well.
The ram I picked is at 1866MHz and timings of 9-10-9-28; isn't that fast enough relative to price vs. performance? Not trying to argue, I'm just confused how that ram is better at timings of 11 with MHz speed of 1600?
I would build him a rig with a 2600K but the budget limit doesn't allow it so it comes down to either the i5-2500k or the FX-8120. So what you're saying is that the 8 cores on the fx-8120 would be utilized enough to where they'd be beneficial to my friend's usage (video encoding, ect.)?
I mean I understand that the i5 is stellar on games relative to the 8120 but that isn't his main need right now when it comes to needing a new rig. As for power, I don't think that's much of an issue with an adequate power supply and it kind of makes sense that it eats more power (4 cores vs. 8 cores).
I'm honestly leaning towards the FX-8120 right now I just want to see a few more people's perspectives on the matter.

If you plan to overclock the ram he pointed out would overall be better. If you don't then stick with yours.

The 2500k is weak compared to the FX-8120 or FX-8150, the 2600k would be better but the 8 cores will render faster than the i5's 4.
I would take the FX-8120 and a mobo, Newegg is running combo deals for an extra $20 and Microcenter runs them often as well if you happen to be near one.


Microcenter AMD deals (in store only) - http://www.microcenter.com/specials/promotions/AMDbundlePROMO.html
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2500k, hands down, though a 2600k would tear through converting, etc. with its hyperthreading. The 8120 may have 8 cores, but core-for-core performance is far weaker than a 2500k or 2600k. Here's a good idea of how a 2500k stands up to an 8150 (it's the closest competitor that the site has to compare).

As for motherboards, ASRock, ASUS, and Gigabyte are great companies. For your build/budget, I'd recommend ASRock's Extreme3 Gen3 Z68 board ($120ish).
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Compare both of them, the 2500k wins: Source
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the FX-8120 will do him better in the Long run, in Video it will smoke the 2500k, and it's not TERRIBLE at gaming (esp if you OC it)

Though I guess take into account how MUCH video encoding/editing/rendering he will be doing compared to audio ect since the 2500k will seriously out do the 8121
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Okay so clearly I'm getting varying opinions here so I'm just going to flip a coin or something lol! Joking. However, I will say that those test charts show the 8 cores aren't much of a benifit at all even if it's the FX-8150. wth.gif

I think I'm going to call my friend up and get in detail what exactly he does that's software related.....

Note to TwilightEscape, thanks for clarifying on the ram (I think I'm going to get it instead since I have oc'd ram before). Also, newegg is the only option for me (don't live near a Microcenter store).

Edit: Not to throw another bone into the pot but I've heard that Ivy Bridge will be out in a month or so? Is that accurate or no? I can get my friend to wait till April if that's true (if release date is 6 months from now than never mind).
Edited by AddictedtoPC - 3/19/12 at 10:16am
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8100-chips are power-hungry and offer very little return for high overclocks. The 2500k, meanwhile, is an efficient, cool-running chip that still overclocks like a champ and is perfectly capable of whooping an 8150 in video encoding/editing.

Also, don't overlook the fact that if you (or your friend, technically) go with an AM3+ platform you're stuck with Marvell controllers for your SATA III drives. Just something to keep in mind if an SSD is added to speed up file transfers while media editing.
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if you do go with intel since your already getting a z68 board I'd highly

recommend setting up your SSD as a hd Cache I did and really haven't noticed any real world difference from when I ran my SSD as the OS drive/primary programs drive
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LIttle Giant
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
3570k Asus P8Z77-I Deluxe  AMD Radeon HD Myst 7870 Tahiti Accelero Twin Turbo II 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveMonitor
16GB Corsair 1600  Samsung 840pro Samsung 500 GB 2.5" 7200 HDD Asus VG236h 120hz  
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Corsair K90 Corsair 500w Bitfenix Prodigy  Logitech G9x 
Mouse PadAudio
Rocketfish Hard dual sided Creative 2.1 speakers/Razer Megalodon/Charasis  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
I5 2500k Asus P8Z68-lx XFX 685X Pny 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Wd caviar black FAALS Wd caviar blue  Ocz agility 2 Ssd Asus dvd burner 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Frio Win 7 home premium Hp 2207 Logitech G11 (rev 1) 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Pc power and colling 775w Antech 900 Logitech G9x Rocketfish 
Audio
Razer megalodon 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsHard Drive
Athlon X2 4800+ ESC Nettle2 Asus 5770 wd Black 
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SSD OCZ agility II Win 7 home Premium  Hp w2207 Logitech G11 
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