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Ya that would work well I'm not a huge fan of duel loop systems the temp just don't justify the effort most of the time imo they just end up looking like a mess of piping for a few degree's difference.

I think that (3 x 480 ) rad set up 1000 rpm fans would give you good temps. I would personally control all my fans with an Aquacomputer Aquaero 5 so you can minimise the noise as much as possible.

Just to get an idea of the performance different radiators, block, pumps ect will give you, I strongly recommend you check out these websites they are extremely useful and highly regarded.

http://skinneelabs.com/triple-radiator-comparison-v2/4/

http://martinsliquidlab.org/2011/12/20/ac-aquaero-5-review-guide-wip/

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Sorry if I didn't make myself clear I was saying that I would make a single loop.

What would the loop look like?

Pump>Res>cpu>(mobo if i get a coverage for the board. Also how much performance does wcing your board give you)>480 rad>sli'ed 580's>480 Rad>480 Rad?

I looked at the fan controller. Looks pretty cool. You can control EVERYTHING with it. I have a sunbeam 30w 6 channel controller thought about using that.
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Seconding the single loop, dual loop is only if you want to sacrifice performance on one loop for the benefit of the other. If you have rads evenly split to match the heat load, dual loop is only at best the same performance as a single loop, and that's with all components under full load. If only the CPU is heavily loaded, or only the GPUs are heavily loaded, they're going to be hotter in a dual loop than if all radiators were in one large loop.

As for radiator size, if you're using AP-15s on SR-1 480s, you can expect ~730w of cooling at a 10C delta per radiator. Using AP-14s, it's more like 600w per radiator at 10C delta. Yate Loons would also be perfectly acceptable here if you want to save money on fans, as has been suggested I'd get the high speeds and throttle them down with a fan controller. At stock clocks, you're going to be somewhere around 900w of heat at full load, give or take. With overclocking, I'd expect it to be somewhere around 1300w, though that's going to vary depending on your clocks and voltage. 2x 480's would be fine with relatively quiet fans if you're ok with a 10C delta, which isn't bad at all. You can take a look at the numbers in this review, if you want to hit 5C deltas it would take twice as much radiator.

If you were to split the loops, you'd have ~750w at stock clocks on one 480, and only ~150w at stock clocks on the other, so you'd be sacrificing GPU temp for total overkill on the CPU. When overclocked, the CPU wattage is going to go up quite a bit more than the GPUs do, as it gets a much larger overclock, but you're leaving yourself very little overclock headroom on the GPUs. If you're intent on a dual loop setup, I'd probably go with more like 3x360, with 2x360 on the GPU and 1x360 for the CPU and motherboard.

(edit)
And just saw you were going with a single loop, so yay for that... tongue.gif Motherboard water blocks really vary depending on the chipset, I've heard the x79 chipset does actually run pretty warm and that a block would be recommended if you have poor case airflow, something that's fairly common with water cooling. As for loop setup, I'd run the 580's in parallel so the third one isn't getting ~2c warmer water. Putting a radiator between the CPU and the GPUs isn't really mandatory, the CPU should raise the water temp by less than 1c, so you can route the radiators however looks best. I'd probably do res > pump > cpu > gpus in parallel > all radiators >
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I really want this rig to be as silent as possible. I don't want the high rpm fans. I have San Ace's on my current rig and they are LOUD to say the least. So for more heat dissipation should I just use 2 480 sr-1's for the cards and 1 480 for the cpu and possibly mobo?

Ya the way you specified components on each rad made it sound like they were in a separate loops anyway good luck with the build

imo 1 480 for a OC 3930k is not overkill you really want an great delta temp since the cpu just produces so much heat. 180watts at 4.6ghz of heat is a lot of heat for a small WB to remover which cause sandy bridge E to run a tad hot. That said 1 loop is the way to go! smile.gif
    
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480 on a cpu only is definitely overkill, it's enough to get you down to like a 2.5-3C delta. That will only net you ~2.5 degrees at load (and less at smaller loads / idle) compared to a 5C delta. I'd definitely consider anything under 5C delta pretty serious overkill, you suffer large diminishing returns for your money after 5C. A 240mm SR-1 with AP-15s is going to be able to do 5C delta at ~180w. Even adding a mobo block and moving to AP-14s or slow Yate Loons I wouldn't put more than a 360 on it. Either way though, it's a moot point as he's doing a single loop... tongue.gif
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1. There is nothing quiet about GT-AP-15 you may be used to them but there not quiet!

2. Yate Loons on a 360 at 180wats load @ 1000rpm should give you a Delta of around ~5deg which is a good target imo especially with a extremely hot cpu like the 3930k OCed

http://skinneelabs.com/xspc-rx360-v2/2/

so a 480 + maybe 700rpm fans (which is quiet) I would think that a Delta of 5deg's would be quite a reasonable assumption.

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Either way though, it's a moot point as he's doing a single loop... tongue.gif

completely agree lol smile.gif
    
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Gah..Click my sig before you go buying tons of rads n stuff..There's a better way.
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post #28 of 47
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1. There is nothing quiet about GT-AP-15 you may be used to them but there not quiet!

tongue.gif It's all relative, I consider AP-15s quiet (though certainly not silent), as run 3x San Ace H1011s and consider them loud but acceptable. AP-15s are certainly more quiet than what most GPUs end up at under load.

-1 for the bong idea... Not sure why so many bong users are so evangelical about it, but it's simply not a practical solution for many people. It's large, increases the room humidity, requires constant top-ups (or a rigged solution like a toilet to refill on its own), and it's open to the air, increasing the odds of junk in the loop. Yes, it's pretty much the only way to get sub-ambient water temps without actively cooling the water, but it's a pretty small niche.
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I'm going for overkill on this project haha hence the reason for 32 gigs of ram and the LD case. Would I have flow problems with those 3 480's with 2 355 pumpswith and xspc top?
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A pair of 355's with xspc tops would be just fine with all of that.
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