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Well, that goes with any investment.... homes, stock, bonds, loans, business, etc.
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If you cannot qualify or quantify something..... is it really important?
If no one bothers or cares to do it, is it worth something? If so, what?
Furthermore, what are you basing your statement of "Apple is a parasite" upon? Have you done an in-depth analysis by following the SEC filings, checking supply lines, calculating benefits, adding up costs, etc?

You're right, I should have said just because I won't spoon feed it to you doesn't mean it isn't of monumental importance.
    
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Give the money to laborers? That's funny. Execs don't answer to laborers: they answer to stockholders.
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You're right, I should have said just because I won't spoon feed it to you doesn't mean it isn't of monumental importance.

However, you are not knowledgeable enough about Apple to form such an opinion. I probably know more about Apple than you... so I could probably spoon feed my analysis to you.

Where is your data about worth/value to humanity? How are you defining worth?
Edited by DuckieHo - 3/19/12 at 10:45am
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Well, that goes with any investment.... homes, stock, bonds, loans, business, etc.

33 shares of Apple stock...or a 20k down payment on a home.

tough decisions.

But at least the 33 shares will net you a hefty sum of $87.45
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However, you are not knowledgeable enough about Apple to form such an opinion. I probably know more about Apple than you... so I could probably spoon feed my analysis to you.

Might that have to do with your analysis being a simple regurgitation of their shareholder's summary? The analysis that apple is successful in making profits? Congratulations! Apple is responsible for putting tablets into people's hands, great, now compare that to what other tech companies have created and supported over the years. Think about what Microsoft has done for global innovation and productivity, then compare that to Apple. Bill Gates's own personal life alone makes Apple look like a steaming pile of crap.

Oh wait, thats right, we were talking about R&D and how much Apple does because it is so much. No wait... you realized you were wrong and decided to talk about how making money is what is important.

Do you think the world is going to remember IBM, or Apple more in the future? Because you make it sound like IBM's R&D is inferior to Apples because they don't net as much profit off of it.

Why don't you go ahead and spoon feed me your analysis of why Apple's R&D is just as important or comparable to other tech companies earning as much money.
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Well, that goes with any investment.... homes, stock, bonds, loans, business, etc.

You have to have money to make money.
    
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Apple is a corporation.

One could try to argue that they are solely responsible for smartphone and tablet revolution/race

Fixed.

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Might that have to do with your analysis being a simple regurgitation of their shareholder's summary? The analysis that apple is successful in making profits? Congratulations! Apple is responsible for putting tablets into people's hands, great, now compare that to what other tech companies have created and supported over the years. Think about what Microsoft has done for global innovation and productivity, then compare that to Apple. Bill Gates's own personal life alone makes Apple look like a steaming pile of crap.
But wait, wait! Look at all this money Apple makes! That's all that matters right?


Ignorance to the point of propaganda.
 
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Might that have to do with your analysis being a simple regurgitation of their shareholder's summary? The analysis that apple is successful in making profits? Congratulations! Apple is responsible for putting tablets into people's hands, great, now compare that to what other tech companies have created and supported over the years. Think about what Microsoft has done for global innovation and productivity, then compare that to Apple. Bill Gates's own personal life alone makes Apple look like a steaming pile of crap.
Oh wait, thats right, we were talking about R&D and how much Apple does because it is so much. No wait... you realized you were wrong and decided to talk about how making money is what is important.
Do you think the world is going to remember IBM, or Apple more in the future? Because you make it sound like IBM's R&D is inferior to Apples because they don't net as much profit off of it.
Why don't you go ahead and spoon feed me your analysis of why Apple's R&D is just as important or comparable to other tech companies earning as much money.
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Fixed.
Ignorance to the point of propaganda.

Care to point out the ignorance in my statement?

And if my propaganda is getting people to realize that there is more to life then making money, and more to the value of a corporation then how much money they earn, then I have no problem with that.
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Stock buy backs are good for stock holders... it increases the value of their shares.

Shouldn't do. The company is devalued by the amount of cash it expends to buy back the shares, so the value of each individual share should in theory remain the same or at least very similar. Any small rise is usually down to supply and demand as there are a lower number of outstanding shares left for others to buy. The only real benefit to shareholders comes in the form of increased voting power.
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Might that have to do with your analysis being a simple regurgitation of their shareholder's summary? The analysis that apple is successful in making profits? Congratulations! Apple is responsible for putting tablets into people's hands, great, now compare that to what other tech companies have created and supported over the years. Think about what Microsoft has done for global innovation and productivity, then compare that to Apple. Bill Gates's own personal life alone makes Apple look like a steaming pile of crap.
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Do you think the world is going to remember IBM, or Apple more in the future? Because you make it sound like IBM's R&D is inferior to Apples because they don't net as much profit off of it.
Why don't you go ahead and spoon feed me your analysis of why Apple's R&D is just as important or comparable to other tech companies earning as much money.

If you knew a little about history, you'd realise that Apple(more specifically Steve Jobs) has contributed more to society than anyother company. Microsoft litterlly milked on every success Apple has had. Macintosh, Microsoft comes out with a lame of a an obvious knokoff called Windows. It's because of Apple that we have GUI It's because of Apple that we have smartphones that don't suck. It's because of Apple that we have high capacity mp3 players. It's because of Apple that tablets have become mainstream.
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