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No. Not at all. Capitalism functions by the individual determining what is best for himself and corporations determining what is best for corporations. What you describe sounds much more like socialism/communism.
Why the hell is OCN seemingly so socialist? Why do people have so much anger against companies that produce products that the masses enjoy using? I really need to find a tech forum that is more capitalist-oriented. This ignorant bashing of companies is so tiring.

It's just the way a good majority of OCN is. Its an Apple thread, so people have to hate on it.

If Apple is mentioned, then it becomes a Stever Jobs was the devil and Apple is his offpsring thread.
If Linux is mentioned, then it becomes a OMG Windows is so much better thread.
If CoD is mentioned it get's spit on by BF3 fanboys.
If torrents are mentioned, then all the anti-pirate people come to ruin it.

And so on for so many other subjects. Welcome to OCN. Where no one gets the point of opinions and if you don't agree with theirs, then you are wrong.

There's only a handful of people here that've I've noticed aren't too bad about these typs of things.
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It's just the way a good majority of OCN is. Its an Apple thread, so people have to hate on it.
If Apple is mentioned, then it becomes a Stever Jobs was the devil and Apple is his offpsring thread.
If Linux is mentioned, then it becomes a OMG Windows is so much better thread.
If CoD is mentioned it get's spit on by BF3 fanboys.
If torrents are mentioned, then all the anti-pirate people come to ruin it.
And so on for so many other subjects. Welcome to OCN. Where no one gets the point of opinions and if you don't agree with theirs, then you are wrong.
There's only a handful of people here that've I've noticed aren't too bad about these typs of things.

Exactly, with a forum this size there are bound to lots and lots of conflicting opinions.
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People seem to assume since some larger corporations game the system all are bad. If people want to be angry at anything they need to be angry at big banking, the huge investment firms and the CDS ponzi scheme.

CDS are not a Ponzi scheme.... just unregulated insurance that was over-leveraged and misrated!


(I worked on implementing CDS data feeds and reporting.)
Edited by DuckieHo - 3/19/12 at 12:25pm
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No. Not at all. Capitalism functions by the individual determining what is best for himself and corporations determining what is best for corporations. What you describe sounds much more like socialism/communism.
Why the hell is OCN seemingly so socialist? Why do people have so much anger against companies that produce products that the masses enjoy using? I really need to find a tech forum that is more capitalist-oriented. This ignorant bashing of companies is so tiring.

Are you kidding me? Just because corporations don't want you to think for yourselves does not mean that it's OK to shrug your individual responsibility of being conscientious in your purchasing decisions. You are spouting some ridiculous nonsense. Socialism/communism, OCN is Socialist? What the hell are you talking about? I'm afraid you've been brainwashed.
    
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The amount you spend on R&D alone does not matter.... it is the return on investment that is important.

LOL, spend 10$ on making a white iphone 4S shell, get 600$ back. rolleyes.gif
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key word is individual responsibility. I have no responsibility to anyone but myself when I make purchases. Companies, in turn, have only to keep in mind their own financial success. Excuse me, but show me where I said individuals should ignore their responsibility to themselves, or that they should make uninformed purchases? And yes, the idea that a company should consider foremost the betterment of society rather than their own profits is anti-capitalist at the core. It turns out that in many cases, there is a correlation between a company's financial success and the value added to society. But presuming to think that any successful company thinks of their responsibility to society when making decisions is an ignorant fool, indeed.

Considering no one but yourself with your purchase decisions (or ever as you make it sound) is ignoring your responsibility to yourself (by means of ignoring others whom you are dependent on) and making an uninformed purchase.

You really think that your surgeon shouldn't care about anybody but himself when he is cutting you open? Because that is how ridiculous and simple minded your rhetoric is.
    
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CDS are not a Ponzi scheme.... just unregulated insurance that was over-leveraged!

Last I checked leverage was the amount you had put out over your assets. Many of these banks and firms were leveraged upwards of around 70/1 I think it was in Fannie Mae's case. It might just be me but putting out far more money than you are taking in and only staying afloat with cheap money and bailouts sure seems to fit into the definition of a ponzi scheme to me. Does the fact that they have nice words like leverage really change the concept? Even if you don't agree that it was a ponzi scheme you can't deny that it was terrible business and they deserve some scrutiny.
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So I read this entire thread and everyone needs to chill out.
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For this "what has apple done for humanity" need to only look at how the Ipad has helped disabled children learn and express feelings. They devolped things for autistic children to express their feelings by colors in an easy to use way. Any apple product is way better and more accessible to a person with disabilities than any windows or other product i have ever used. And my family deals with them a lot. Apple does a lot but its about UI and delivery not necesarily hardware and tech. They concentrate more on their design and delivery than anything. There is no down that osx is extremely well designed and if it had the same gaming support as windows i would probably switch, barring i could build a comp.
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Considering no one but yourself with your purchase decisions (or ever as you make it sound) is ignoring your responsibility to yourself (by means of ignoring others whom you are dependent on) and making an uninformed purchase.
You really think that your surgeon shouldn't care about anybody but himself when he is cutting you open? Because that is how ridiculous and simple minded your rhetoric is.

No, you just are too closed-minded to understand what I am saying. In considering only oneself, one needs to consider everything that will affect oneself. If others are dependent on you, that is obviously part of the equation. So, if I were married and could only afford one computer between myself and my wife, I would choose a computer that I know we would both be happy using (which maybe would be Apple, maybe would be Microsoft, but you see where I am going with this). It is similar for companies: in attempting to maximize profits, companies consider the probability that consumers will enjoy their products. Etc., etc. Choosing to be responsible in one's purchases only to oneself implies (and should be inferred by anyone who isn't a fool) that anything that affect's one's own happiness needs to be considered. The point is that I am not going to ask myself, "how will society benefit from my current purchase?" because society, in most cases, will not play a part in this decision. In some cases, such as in choosing to buy a green-emissions car, society does play a role, because one's own choose will have a greater impact than on himself and those nearest to him. The important thing to note is that this decision is still being made purely on one's responsibility to oneself (i.e., I would have a responsibility to myself to care for the health of the planet, because it will affect me in the future).

This is how capitalism works. You don't seem to understand it at all. Don't worry, you'll understand in a few years as maturity takes effect.
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