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hey pony-tail, what are you looking to do with this set up? AMD uATX motherboards are not really geared toward high performance, so I am surprised to see that any support SLI or 4 DIMM's. I have seen a few intel boards that cheat and add a extra PCB with power phases separate from the motherboard for better OC. Personally I have had good luck with Gigabyte and Asus boards, the only one I have seen fail was due to a old power supply, so I think that would be a good choice. The particular Gigabyte mobo you mention is not available where I am but I would definitely interested to see if you can make a small but high performance AM3+ microATX system.
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hey pony-tail, what are you looking to do with this set up? AMD uATX motherboards are not really geared toward high performance, so I am surprised to see that any support SLI or 4 DIMM's. I have seen a few intel boards that cheat and add a extra PCB with power phases separate from the motherboard for better OC. Personally I have had good luck with Gigabyte and Asus boards, the only one I have seen fail was due to a old power supply, so I think that would be a good choice. The particular Gigabyte mobo you mention is not available where I am but I would definitely interested to see if you can make a small but high performance AM3+ microATX system.
The best I possibly can get in a uATX .It is my only machine when I am at my GF's house as she has "i"Fever and I do not like using her gear .
Probably best described as a general purpose hack .
Nothing personal against the iCrap users , I just don't like it .
post #233 of 346
Hey everyone, I have been skimming through the thread attempting to find a good starting point to overclock my 1100 thuban cpu. I just recently dusted her off and put it back in my system (forgot I had it kinda..) but really have only experience with overclocking my 965 Deneb rev. c3 or THE fx-8120 that I got rid of in favor of going back to this cpu. When I was running it last year, I only used it stock with turbo core enabled on a Gigabyte 970a-d3 mobo. If anyone has any suggestions for BIOS settings that would be a good starting point, It would be greatly appreciated! I know that overclocking Thuban's and Deneb's are different and a good and stable starting point would be cool.
I am running it in a Gigabyte UD3 mobo with 2 x 2 gigs of kingston hyper-x 1866 in channel 1 and a single stick of ripjaws-x 1866 on channel 2. The power is provided by an Antec high current gamer power supply so amperage isn't a problem. Thanks.
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post #234 of 346
On my 990FXA-UD3, I can hit 4.08GHz stable at 1.425V (don't want to go past this for temperature and safety reasons) using 20x multiplier and a 204MHz FSB. I'm using a 13x multiplier on the NB with a voltage of 1.2V for 2652MHz. It shouldn't be a problem for you to easily hit 4GHz with just 20x multi and auto FSB, as long as you have good cooling. I'm using a CM Hyper 212 EVO, and my temps peak at 50C in Prime 95 in-place FFTs.

I'm using Ultra-High LLC (revision 1.1 board) and voltage peaks at 1.488V under load in Prime95 according to CPU-Z, HWMonitor shows similar @ 1.49V.
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Here's a picture of my MSI 990FXA-GD80 mobo where it burned the small chip between the cpu fan header and the 1st memory slot. It was smelling funny on startup after swapping cases and wouldn't boot. After some troubleshooting, I noticed it and put the hdr to my 920 in another fan header and put the memory on channel 2 and she booted but I am going to send her out to msi to fix it or hopefully replace it with the v2.0...lol. Has anyone ever seen anything like this? It happened after switching back to my 1100thuban from my 965 denb. Was only running at 4 ghz without any load at the time.



EDIT: Here's the first time I tried to o/c the thuban 100 on the asus mobo: CRASH at 4000mhz using only multiplier. Then CRASH at 3900 mhz using multiplier. The asus utility overclocks using the ratio and not multiplier, maybe there's a reason why? I'm going to research thisobo more before going at it again...
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Hey everyone, I am looking to get a new cooler for my CPU. I have right now an H60 which works fine until 4GHz. The voltages are below 1.38 so I know I got lots of head room if I could just keep it cool. I have it shut done at 62 C because I don't feel like shortening the life of a discontinued chip.
What is everyone else's experience trying to cool this 6 core beast?
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Hey everyone, I am looking to get a new cooler for my CPU. I have right now an H60 which works fine until 4GHz. The voltages are below 1.38 so I know I got lots of head room if I could just keep it cool. I have it shut done at 62 C because I don't feel like shortening the life of a discontinued chip.
What is everyone else's experience trying to cool this 6 core beast?

My H100 does a nice job.
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Im using (and have been using) a h60...

although I am now using a ultrakaze 3k 120mm in push on the rad at the top of my rv02 instead of the cosair fan the came with the unit.

I have gone through many different fan combo's and have found that this one good "thick" fin fan does the best.

I have it hooked up to the cpu head of the MB and utilize the boards built in cpu fan speed management set to ramp 100% @ 50c... I don't hear the fan ever, until I trans-code or bench.

my temps stay at 54c full tilt regardless of bench mark. this is with mx4 TIM & 1.44v core. 1100t's generally top out a little over 4ghz as it is. There is more of a performance advantage to having the NB clock as high as it can as well.

My chip will do 4.2 with out touching the NB clock... however, there is a HUGE jump in performance when running the NB @ 3ghz which in-turn limits my core clock to ~4ghz. This is a chip imposed limit, not a cooling limitation inherently.

so, in summary.... the maximum performance related to a 1100t (in the average generality) can be handled with considerable ease with a cooler of the ~H60 caliber.


my 24/7 clocks for reference:





Edit: Forgot to mention this is all while using CnQ and C1E and a 20min S3 sleep timer. This reduces power consumption dramatically over time and never have to see a boot screen.
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Mhh nice, I will try playing around with north bridge frequencies later this week thumb.gif
I am pretty new to overclocking but so far I have found that when I play around with some of the other frequencies in the Bios I just end up with a unstable OC. Got any other tips that may help out?
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Mhh nice, I will try playing around with north bridge frequencies later this week thumb.gif
I am pretty new to overclocking but so far I have found that when I play around with some of the other frequencies in the Bios I just end up with a unstable OC. Got any other tips that may help out?

tips?

Find a max clock of each bus in question independently...

then run a ~15% decrease of each clock together, and increase from there until a comfortable 24/7 clock is found.

This is at least a short explanation of my method.

General rules of thumb:

NB 3ghz OC will require ~1.4v

Keep HT clock < or = ~2.5ghz (higher isn't necessarily bad, but will require more voltage to the HT bus... the added heat and power usage with the possibility of added instability is just not worth it for the inevitable lack of performance gain)

Thuban based chips have a notably large brick wall of instability @ 55c core @ < or = 1.5v. this nets you a ~4ghz clock with mid to high grade cooling. From there its a mad dash for large amounts of cooling (IE Custom water loop) due to the need for more than 1.5v to maintain stability.

Also, don't get caught up in the "Must have higher memory clock" mentality. Big numbers are pretty, but Thuban doesn't think so and will prove it to you via the lack of improvement in any bench or real world usage. wink.gif

Instead I suggest looking for a comfortable Memory clock that doesn't sacrifice bandwidth while still enabling your NB clock to stretch its legs. (and set those memory timings manually, "auto" is the devil)
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