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3/19/12 at 9:04am

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So which set up is the best? Directed intake airflow is always the best over hot components and the more fans you can add the better. Obviously there’s a cost of noise to this benefit, but by using features like Fan Xpert or Thermal Radar it can be balanced by slowing down the fans.

Positive pressure is overwhelmingly a benefit, not only for the reasons listed above but also because it pushes dust out of the case and, if your case is well designed, catches most of it on the fan filters before it can get in.

I thought this would be a nice article to post. He did some hands on work and knew the ambient temps.

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3/19/12 at 9:13am

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Final Conclusion:
So which set up is the best? Directed intake airflow is always the best over hot components and the more fans you can add the better. Obviously there’s a cost of noise to this benefit, but by using features like Fan Xpert or Thermal Radar it can be balanced by slowing down the fans.
Positive pressure is overwhelmingly a benefit, not only for the reasons listed above but also because it pushes dust out of the case and, if your case is well designed, catches most of it on the fan filters before it can get in.

I thought this would be a nice article to post. He did some hands on work and knew the ambient temps.
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I would say i have pos pressure. Wish i could detach my top 200mm fan to swap it for intake!

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3/19/12 at 9:22am

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I wonder what the results would be if the GPU cooler was like a MSI Twin Frozr or Asus DirectCU instead of the blower fan.

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3/19/12 at 9:29am

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I would say i have pos pressure. Wish i could detach my top 200mm fan to swap it for intake!

Why can't you swap it? It is very simple to do on your Haf-X. There are four tabs in each corner that you push on and the entire top panel comes off. On mine I don't even need to touch the release tabs I use a knife at each point on the case that has a tab. Slide the knife in and twist and it pops the top panel right off.

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3/19/12 at 9:40am

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Fail article
I don't agree with using the H50 as the only exhaust for the negative pressure tests. Blowing through a radiator will significantly reduce the airflow. It seems to me from my experience you need a high flow rear exhaust to properly optimize a negative pressure set-up.
He even states in the beginning this is for you "air-cooled" fanboys, and what's best for an air-cooled set-up. Then proceeds to test his theories with a watercooler.

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Negative works just as well if you have a super powerful rear fan such as a Delta.

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I'm a big believer in Positive pressure. I have open PCI slot covers and my only exaust is my Antec Kuhler 920/7970 blower. Three intake in front,(one in 5.25 bay) two intake on top, one on the side and I get super low temps. My OC'd 7970 barely breaks 70 degrees and my CPU under load stays under 50 (that is partially a function of me only clocking it to 4.0ghz but still very cool).

I believe fans function primarily to simply feed my 7970 blower and 920. The way m PC is setup air simply blasts from front to back with two low powered fans on top to push even more fresh air into the 920.

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I nerd-rage every time I hear or see the phrase "negative pressure." I know what they are implying, but I also feel like if you're going to make a scientific-method assessment dealing with pressures, you really should be accustomed to discussing them as gradients or differentials. There is no such thing as "negative pressure" as a physical quantity. Sorry for my nerd-rage.

The one thing that always disappoints me with temperature studies is that no one ever states the ambient temperature(s) at the time of measurements. I can say that there's a good 3-8C temperature differential at my work offices depending on where the AC cycle is at. It really lends a lot of uncertainty/error to temperature reporting across a series of hours or days during testing.

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Good read. Maybe this would be a good time for me to ask. I have 3 front 120mm intakes plus two more on the side of the case on the other side of the hard drive bays. I have two exhausts on the top of the case and a rear exhaust. two fans on my phanteks cooler point toward my rear exhaust.

Now my question pertains to the two fans on the top of my case. If I were to turn on into an intake, does it matter which one it is due to position? (as in is it better to have the fan towards the rear of the case as intake or the one towards the front of the case?)
Heck, what are the opinions of turning both these fans into intake?

I figure it wouldn't hurt to turn one of these as I would still have a couple exhaust. Basically as it is right now I have 3 intake and 3 exhaust. I have no fans on the bottom of my case to push air upward if I turn my top fans into intake. I am not counting the two fans inside the case on the other side of the hard drive bays.

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Good read. Maybe this would be a good time for me to ask. I have 3 front 120mm intakes plus two more on the side of the case on the other side of the hard drive bays. I have two exhausts on the top of the case and a rear exhaust. two fans on my phanteks cooler point toward my rear exhaust.
Now my question pertains to the two fans on the top of my case. If I were to turn on into an intake, does it matter which one it is due to position? (as in is it better to have the fan towards the rear of the case as intake or the one towards the front of the case?)
Heck, what are the opinions of turning both these fans into intake?
I figure it wouldn't hurt to turn one of these as I would still have a couple exhaust. Basically as it is right now I have 3 intake and 3 exhaust. I have no fans on the bottom of my case to push air upward if I turn my top fans into intake. I am not counting the two fans inside the case on the other side of the hard drive bays.

I have a similar setup to yours. I have 2 120mm front fans as intakes, 2 120mm sides as intakes, and 2 120mm tops as intakes. My H50 (push/pull) act as an exhaust, as does my PSU. This setup lowered my MOSFET and radiator temps significantly over my previous setup - where I had the H50 as an intake and the 2 top fans as exhausts.

Give it a shot, I can almost guarantee that it will lower your MOSFET/H70 temps.

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