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you know what? I hate this terra bit terra byte crap. Kilobit, kilobyte. megabit, megabyte. Marketers are constantly trying to deceive us by changing terminology and so we're stuck constantly going "wait a sec..." and having to figure out what the actual figures are.

If I was ruler of the world I would expunge current thinking and make bit illegal. Everything is now bytes! And 1000 bytes is 1 kilobyte. 1000 kilobytes is 1 megabyte> I also hate it when you download a file and it says it's size is 44,560 KB and then you click on it and it's 43.5 MB. ***! Who's the retard who thought up our current schizophrenic numbering system? Someone should go back in time and smack him upside the head.
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you know what? I hate this terra bit terra byte crap. Kilobit, kilobyte. megabit, megabyte. Marketers are constantly trying to deceive us by changing terminology and so we're stuck constantly going "wait a sec..." and having to figure out what the actual figures are.
If I was ruler of the world I would expunge current thinking and make bit illegal. Everything is now bytes! And 1000 bytes is 1 kilobyte. 1000 kilobytes is 1 megabyte> I also hate it when you download a file and it says it's size is 44,560 KB and then you click on it and it's 43.5 MB. ***! Who's the retard who thought up our current schizophrenic numbering system? Someone should go back in time and smack him upside the head.

You have no idea about binary do you?
    
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I think you were just trolled.
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nope :/ I'm clueless about that stuff. I like computers but I'm not a techie at all. I just figure 1k should equal 1000 and it bugs the hell out of me that it doesn't. mah brain hurts. And the dual terminology crap just seems like it's made to make it difficult for the non tech savvy to understand whats really going on. Why do they need bits and bytes? It's like using both metric and imperial at the same time.

Is there some actual physical reason that the numbers don't add up in a rational way? I always figured it was something like the whole "640kb ram is enough for anyone!" crappy shortsighted thinking during early days that got built upon and built upon until it was so integral it was too late to change even if it is illogical and inefficient.
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Why do they need bits and bytes? It's like using both metric and imperial at the same time.
t.

it is not illogical.
1 bit = bit
4 bit = nibble
8 bit = Octet (usually Byte is 8 bit)
ect.
Byte is common used because it is the size of a ASII character and 2 Byte is the size of Unicode.

it is like
1 one = one
10 one = ten
100 one = hundred

You are just not used to binary.
Edited by Erio - 3/20/12 at 12:40pm
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Wouldn't buy a Seagate product to save my life, hopefully Hitachi/Western Digital pick up this technology too.
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nope :/ I'm clueless about that stuff. I like computers but I'm not a techie at all. I just figure 1k should equal 1000 and it bugs the hell out of me that it doesn't. mah brain hurts. And the dual terminology crap just seems like it's made to make it difficult for the non tech savvy to understand whats really going on. Why do they need bits and bytes? It's like using both metric and imperial at the same time.
Is there some actual physical reason that the numbers don't add up in a rational way? I always figured it was something like the whole "640kb ram is enough for anyone!" crappy shortsighted thinking during early days that got built upon and built upon until it was so integral it was too late to change even if it is illogical and inefficient.

Technically the kilo, mega, etc prefixes should be reserverd for multiples of ten (10^3, 10^6, etc), and this is what HDD manufactures use when describing hard drive capacity. However Microsoft incorrectly uses these prefixes for multiples of two, so kilo is 2^10 and mega is 2^20 and so forth. What Microsoft calls 1KB should technically be called a kibibyte (KiB). This is why a 1TB hard drive only shows up as 931 GiB.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibibyte
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HAMR has been announced and actively researched for 5+ years now...

But this makes it seem like they are almost ready for production.
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I have no issue with seagate(first choice of drive) I have an old 7200.9 drive from around 2006 still working(few bad sectors).

I have an 850MB Seagate from the mid 90s that still works fine, and a whole pile (at least a dozen) of dead 7200.10s and 7200.12s.
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you know what? I hate this terra bit terra byte crap. Kilobit, kilobyte. megabit, megabyte. Marketers are constantly trying to deceive us by changing terminology and so we're stuck constantly going "wait a sec..." and having to figure out what the actual figures are.
If I was ruler of the world I would expunge current thinking and make bit illegal. Everything is now bytes! And 1000 bytes is 1 kilobyte. 1000 kilobytes is 1 megabyte> I also hate it when you download a file and it says it's size is 44,560 KB and then you click on it and it's 43.5 MB. ***! Who's the retard who thought up our current schizophrenic numbering system? Someone should go back in time and smack him upside the head.

No one is trying to deceive you. Words and terms have meaning, if you are confused by them when they are clearly stated, that's your own doing.
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nope :/ I'm clueless about that stuff. I like computers but I'm not a techie at all. I just figure 1k should equal 1000

It does, but many systems incorrectly use metric prefixes where they should be using SI binary prefixes.
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And the dual terminology crap just seems like it's made to make it difficult for the non tech savvy to understand whats really going on. Why do they need bits and bytes? It's like using both metric and imperial at the same time.

Bits an bytes are different things. A bit is a one or a zero, a byte is a group of 8. Having the distinction is very useful considering how many systems rely on such or similar groupings internally.

It's not like using metric and imperial, it's like using inches and feet.
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Is there some actual physical reason that the numbers don't add up in a rational way?

The do add up in a rational way, and yes there is a reason for it.
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I always figured it was something like the whole "640kb ram is enough for anyone!

You mean 640KiB, not Kb, KB, or kb. There is a difference.
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crappy shortsighted thinking during early days that got built upon and built upon until it was so integral it was too late to change even if it is illogical and inefficient.

This isn't far from the truth, with regard to the use of metric prefixes for non metric systems. Back when these terms were formalized, there was no SI binary prefix, so 1,024 was labeled with kilo, because it was "close enough".
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SI binary prefix, so 1,024 was labeled with kilo, because it was "close enough".

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